Forum: VirtualDJ Skins
Topic: Challenge: Can someone make me custom 4 deck 3-1-2-4 skin? - Page: 1
First, I know about the various 4 deck skins, as well as the 3-1-2-4 skins available currently, unless I missed something. I have looked through the skins pretty thoroughly on this site however, and haven't really found what I need.
What I am looking for isn't for fancy, but for functionality. I want a multideck skin based on the VDJ 4 deck skin that was modified for 3-1-2-4 channel assignment.
Things I need:
1. To be able to see the status of the loops and effects without cycling on the “player-loops-effects” thing.
2. I want all the stuff I don't need to see because I am using a controller... GONE. Well, almost.
3. I want to be able to know INSTANTLY, without any question in the world, which deck I am in control of, when using two deck controllers with a VDJ 4 deck setup, swapping controls.
4. I don't want a skin that takes any more realestate up on the deck side vs. database, than the standard VDJ 4 deck skins do. The standard VDJ 4 deck skin is a good balance for me.
5. I don't want the decks really any smaller than the standard VDJ 4 deck, I'm not looking for uber small.
6. I am not looking for anything fancy, just functional for what I need. Simplicity is great for me.
So on #1, I want to achieve this idea without clutter, hence, point #2, with a few exceptions. I do want the play button on all decks, so I can push play/pause if I am just previewing a track on a deck, but don't want to switch midi control to that deck. I also want the spinning discs left there, as it is a solid indication as to which decks are actively playing.
On #3, I have seen the “Swap deck” skins, and they do NOT work for me. Maybe it's the old school in me, but I like my decks to have consistent, physical conditions. When I was using 4 physical sources of audio (CD players, record players), I wasn't moving them around during the gig, and I don't want the decks on my screen to move around...LOL.. maybe I'm just too dumb to deal with it :P So, I really do want the decks to stay put, and I want a good consistent visual of all 4 decks all the time, but I also want a clear visual as to which decks are actively being controlled by the midi controller.
I don't know how to create skins, but I am decent with Microsoft Paint, and have created a “Mock-up” of what I would really like. I did actually download the skin creator tool, but have yet to figure it out, hence, I am looking for some help.
Here is the jpg I created. Is anyone up to the challenge of creating this? It would be worth paying someone if that would help? I don't have a lot I could pay, but make me an offer, and I will see what I can do?
What I have done with this image, is you will see that the pause & sync buttons are gone, but the play button is there. The Loop in/out buttons are gone, but the loop length is there, as well as buttons to extend/shorten. Also, the effects section is there. Basically, stuff that I might need to see visual confirmation on the screen is there. All other missing visual controls are already on the midi controller. This would be a midi controller only skin, but not specific to any midi controller. Also, I have a very defined colored box around the "ACTIVE" deck, or the deck that the midi controller currently has control over. If it's a pain to make each box a different color for each deck, one simple color will do, maybe just red :)
Or alternatively, if anyone knows a great “from the ground up” “VDJ skinning for dummies” tutorial somewhere that I haven't found yet, I'd be willing to give it another try :)
Posted Mon 11 Feb 13 @ 5:45 pm
I am about to create a modified skin that will look like this..
Ths Jogwheel will change color if the deck is left/right or not.
4 HotCue points. Most of the controllers have 4, not 3
All important info will be visible, no panels.
Names of the FX sliders will be visible too.
Filter with on/off button.
Key slider with the value below the slider, not in the textzones above.
Loop In/Out buttons too.
Added Cue buttons as well.
Reason adding some extra buttons compared to your suggestion, is because i need to skin to work without a controller as well. E.g.SYNC function will be a rightclick action on the MASTER button.
The only thing that i have to disagree with your suggestion is the Sampler part.
I would rather add an optional panel on the bottom of the browser, like i did with the Swap 4 Decks Skin. Some controllers have samplers 1...4 mapped to the same side, some have 1..4 to the left and 5..8 to the right side. So having a particular order/layout will not cover all needs. Besides, Sampler is outputted to Master, so having the Sampler on decks makes no sense to me, unless you use them to record from a specific deck.
Posted Mon 11 Feb 13 @ 8:20 pm
I personally prefer the knobs over the bars for the two parameter knobs, partially because I use a 3rd party filter, that uses one parameter for low pass, the other for high pass, and I think sounds better...but that's more personal preference.
Posted Mon 11 Feb 13 @ 9:45 pm
Posted Mon 11 Feb 13 @ 10:32 pm
I like the new look of the loop and effect windows too. A bit smoother looking, very nice.
Posted Tue 12 Feb 13 @ 12:21 am
Posted Tue 12 Feb 13 @ 12:26 am
Yeah, when you get this done, I want it? Do I need to donate to the djdad fund?
Posted Tue 12 Feb 13 @ 12:37 am
Posted Tue 12 Feb 13 @ 11:38 am
Using a VMS4.1, but have remapped half of the functions, and just changed how other functions work more to my liking. Just finally getting all the LED's mapped. Built a rack around it, that has small LED strips to light up the areas on the mixer that are harder to see (specifically the front). Working on a skin from Styleflip, that will have the functions relabeled. Also replacing a few components on the headphone output (I am a repair tech by day) to try to clean up the headphone output. The main output is quite good. I was surprised how well it compared to a Native Instruments Audio 8, but for some reason the headphone output is not as clean as I'd like. If I can't get that to work like I want, I'll be using an Native Instruments Audio 2 for the headphone output :) I really like the VMS4.1 as a midi, so it's been worth working around the few things I don't like :) Anyway, lots of tinkering...HAHA!
Thanks again :)
Posted Tue 12 Feb 13 @ 12:43 pm
Posted Tue 12 Feb 13 @ 3:36 pm
Posted Tue 12 Feb 13 @ 10:31 pm
Posted Tue 12 Feb 13 @ 10:43 pm
Posted Tue 12 Feb 13 @ 11:15 pm
Posted Wed 13 Feb 13 @ 1:41 am
Posted Wed 13 Feb 13 @ 1:51 am
I have a cosmetic suggestion, but it's just a very humble suggestion. As the skin is now, it is fantastic, and more than what I was looking for, so if you don't agree with this idea, or if it just wouldn't be worth the extra hassle, or maybe even just add more clutter as a result, then I totally understand.
As I stated before, I have really been looking for a "functional" skin, not so much cosmetic, but... this is just a thought I had this morning, that might make a nice cosmetic touch, and you can let me know what you think? Crap idea, or good, or not worth the time....LOL... either is fine...LOL... just thought I would through this idea out there.
The top panel with all the text, such as track title, artist, time, bpm and so forth, what if you framed that in a window similar to the windows that you put the effects & loop length in? With the visual idea, of like a display on a deck? basically just blacker background inside the "information dispay" window, which actually might add just a little more contrast to the text as well. Maybe that's good, maybe not. I really like the revised windows you made for the loop length and effects selection and just got me thinking, it might be a nice frame for the information panel as well. Again, if it's a dumb idea, I'm good...LOL...
Here is a pic emphasizing what I am suggestion:
In short then, what do you think about framing the area I've made a red box around, in a similar fashion to the frame you made around the loop & effect areas, which I have also circled? If it's a dumb idea, I'm good as it stands...LOL... I realize this is a skin for lots of users, not just me, and I've had dumb ideas before :)
Posted Wed 13 Feb 13 @ 11:58 am
Posted Wed 13 Feb 13 @ 3:05 pm
Posted Wed 13 Feb 13 @ 4:38 pm
I removed Timecode actions. Beatlock will be a rightclick action on SYNC (decks)
Gain values present.
The Scratch panel will also have both deck orders available (1234 & 3124) like the mixer, with rightclick on the SCRATCH panel button
Posted Wed 13 Feb 13 @ 6:45 pm
VirtualDJ 7 (4Decks) AIO (All In One)
1280x800, 1366x768, 1440x900, 1600x900
Posted Wed 13 Feb 13 @ 9:44 pm