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Forum: Wishes and new features

Topic: 3/4 looping???
 

Posted Sun 22 Jan 23 @ 3:56 pm
do it yourself, it's the most basic of edits you can do.

loop 0.2
loop 0.33
loop 0.75
loop 1.5

loop roll effect being commands like

effect_beats 'loop roll' 0.75 & effect_active 'loop roll' while_pressed
 

Hahaa!! He must of just watched this video

 

I don't even have to watch that video to know what it's about. I was playing with this idea years ago.

loop length tied to opposite deck bpm.
I might make it as a plugin. Interesting as once a set gimmick.
 

A plugin would make it easier to achieve this lol but yeah I'd try it out.
 

In Fruit skin..



 

Plug in would be nice.
 

Did this ever go anywhere?

(yeah, I watched that video too lol)
 

Did we ever get a 3/4 loop implemented yet??

Just sitting here at work and this popped in my head lol
 

loop 0.75
if you want it to work out the pitch for you
loop 0.75 & param_multiply `deck master get_bpm` 0.75 & param_cast beats & pitch
other ideas could be done were a loop length is calculated to a desired pitch/bpm.
 

I guess what I meant is that when scrolling through the loop lengths with my RANE 70 it goes from 1/2 to 1.

It's safe to say VDJ still hasn't added 3/4 into the regular rotation when scrolling yet??

The only place I can find it is under the roll and I don't want to have to hold down a button in order to get a 3/4 loop.

I'd like a real 3/4 loop implemented.

Unless Im missing something, its still not here yet??
 

loop double key: loop_select 0.5 ? loop_select 0.75 : loop_select 0.75 ? loop_select 1 : loop_double

loop half key: loop_select 1 ? loop_select 0.75 : loop_select 0.75 ? loop_select 0.5 : loop_half
 

Just curious, in what normal case does a 3/4 loop fit your mixing?
Given tracks are 4/4 timtime signature, a 3/4 loop would eventually go off beat/phase relative most other songs.

Is the use case for a loop breakdown effect? How many other fractions under 1 beat do you want besides 3/4?
And given these odd fractions are done for less than 1 beat, do you want them for multiples greater than a beat too?

Remember the more fractions of a loop you add, the longer you have to scroll to get to sizes you desire.

As much as I don't see how useful this is in a general sense, maybe the feature request is to ask for a global, configurable sequence of loop/beat-fx size stops in Settings (probably with presets matching what some other gear does - Pioneer DJM-S mixers do have 3/4 for beat-based effect engagements like Echo) with the default being the regular powers of 2 relative to 4/4 time.
 

I use 3/4 3/2 1/3 often with regular 4/4 beat mixed but I'm using slip mode so soon as I exit I'm in time. [plus use loop count so I can start on command, get weird, and it still exits on time and to time.]
Also I use my tape plugin a lot and that will loop free form noise if you want to get weird.
As for the tempo increase to x*1.33 or down to x*0.75 trick it's only something I do with after party sessions. But I might work on a techno to jungletek quick transition for public performance, but I think I'd want it a shrinking loop to get from 1 to ~0.75, it could be a once a set novelty.
 

locoDog wrote :
loop double key: loop_select 0.5 ? loop_select 0.75 : loop_select 0.75 ? loop_select 1 : loop_double

loop half key: loop_select 1 ? loop_select 0.75 : loop_select 0.75 ? loop_select 0.5 : loop_half


Thanks Loco, Ill try it tonight.

@Vinyl,

I tend to play a lot of Drum & Bass and House so this makes to switch ups a little more interesting. Its even useful when mixing other genres. You can make big jumps quickly.

I don't know, everyone is different, we all probably mix the same music just in different ways.

But as I'm sure your aware, just because you don't find it useful doesn't mean others don't.
 

@locodog and @thesoundinsurgent I agree that there is use, not trying to say there isn't, just was curious as to how common it was/the use cases.

I do mostly breakdown loops of the power of two fractions below 1 beat, so the 3/4 would probably get in the way for my use case (I'd have to double tap at 1 bt while within the 1 beat loop).
That's why I think having that flexibility of defining loop stops globally might satisfy everybody.