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I don't say it's impossible but you really need to think how to handle it because the data needs to get transfered at every search - so 30 MB when you search for "*" needs ~1 minute to transfer i would think. So anyway - i am not from the dev team ;-)

We knew this request and i also requested it personally but at the moment the focus seems to be on Version 8 ;-)

Greets, Heiko
 
Guys,

As I've stated before you can use splashtop on both Android and iOS to remote control VDJ. It's not a perfect solution but depending on your device and selected skin you can control VDJ as you see it with the full capabilities including browser. All you need to do is create an ad-hoc wifi network from your PC.

I too bought the VDJ app but it's not really any good in it's current form.

Here's it on the Galaxy Note 2 working like a charm and the stylus really helps. I've been using this for months with the ipad previously and it's great!
 
Yes, I've already got splashtop installed - and for the what it does, it's fine.

What I'm saying is that I'd like the database (XML file) to be stored on the iPad - not transferred every time, Heiko - so that I can use the iPad for searching if my computer fails (if that happens, splashtop is no use).
 
But surely if your computer fails you've got no sound output either?

Keith
 
I don't DJ from my laptop. I use it as a database for browsing and searching.

As I said in my earlier post, I play the music from my Denon decks. They have small screens, so it's far easier to find stuff via VDJ on the laptop than using the Denons alone. The laptop being on also means that (should the Denons fail) I can resort to playing on VDJ.

Having a backup of the DB on the iPad would be convenient as it's easer to lug than a second laptop.
 
jakovski wrote :
I think the major problem on the browser search is the big ammount of data. I am not from the developing Team so i don't know if /how this could be done but think about a stupid search with "*" on the iPad.

I have heard from users that have 3 different drives with Databases about 260 MB all together. Imagine what it means to transfer 200 MB to your iPad and how long it takes. So i think it's not that easy to handle this without loosing much performance or freeze the iDevice while uploading hundreds of megabytes of results.

We already talked about this feature in the team but in my eyes (my personal meaning) the focu should be to get version 8 ready. After it is released and fully stable working there is much time for stuff like the iRemote which also has to change because many things in VDJ will change, too.

But anyway - i used the iPhone / iPad on multiple events without any reason !!! BUT i use a small access point and connect it to my Computer by cable - so i could deactivate my Wireless on the Computer. Remember that the AdHoc network can be used within a few meters from the Computer. If you want to walk arround a big room it's much better to have a full powered external access point which has much more Wifi power then the client card inside the Computer.

Greets, Heiko


I greatly appreciate the first & serious response on this issue that I have ever seen from anyone with an Atomix title. Thank you.

I can also appreciate the VDJ 8 priority. Not expecting today like the OP. This is just an area of pain we have all delt with (that bought the app anyway). We would just like it to be addressed. The VDJ app is the main reason I chose the iPad in the first place, it is the only one not available on Android. That is not a cut, just a fact, so I noticed and bought the right tool.

My DB is also under 30 meg at a very modest 18,000 tracks. Not sure how one gets 200+ meg. Syncing 200+ meg is pretty crazy, but we have to anylise tracks ahead of time. This could just be one more pre show activty. From what I can see, this could work just like "add folder to DB" currently does in VDJ. It should be able to save the database to the iPad and operate off old data just like VDJ can currently does if you forget the pre show refreash.

I understand your points, but still feel there has to be a good way.
 
I try to keep to myself alot of times when I see some things cause I dont like to see a bickering session but I couldnt on this one

What did DJ's do before cell phones and tablets I know when I am DJing I don't leave the DJ Booth unless I have to Piss and then I have Piss Break Mixes I have made up before hand for situations like that I just don't see a purpose for a remote. And the Bartenders bring drinks to me also so I don't have to worry about that.
 
Scroll up because I already explained it. DJs also do things other than bar/club gigs. People could also say the same about midi controllers, sync button, etc. If you like it support. If not... Well thats how we get off topic.

Atomix saw the need to make the app, we are now talking about the problems with it and maybe how to address them.
 
dj2bucs wrote :
I try to keep to myself alot of times when I see some things cause I dont like to see a bickering session but I couldnt on this one

What did DJ's do before cell phones and tablets I know when I am DJing I don't leave the DJ Booth unless I have to Piss and then I have Piss Break Mixes I have made up before hand for situations like that I just don't see a purpose for a remote. And the Bartenders bring drinks to me also so I don't have to worry about that.


I'm with you, all my tasks are taken care of well before the affair. I bring the mic for the toast and the blessing, but rarely leave the booth. Take a pee, who does that? Many, many, many years ago, when I did Jesus bar mitzvah, I went to pee, and a box of 45s was gone. So, I never leave the room. I have my meal bought to me, and never sit down. This is one of those moments where technology seems to add to the work load. Remember when you bought a record and played it, done. Some say it works as intended, others think it's a piece of crap. I try to keep it simple. Others, like the new toys, what do I know?
 
To person who implied I wanted it fixed today, you do not take into account that myself and others have been asking for this for a long time and this thread is the first time I've EVER seen an actual response from Atomix. Which has been frustrating. So ill echo the thanks for the reply from someone earlier.

To those who said that there is no need to leave the booth, you are thinking only of your own needs. Someone else already explained a reason and I have another altogether.

I don't see why a simple tracklisting is so difficult with VDJ, if DJay can achieve this for years with their app it seems strange its so difficult the VDJ. Maybe I'm missing something??

And last point with the App freezing up VDJ in two on my machines and also a friends. This has been repeatable every time, I usually takes about an hour or so to freeze though as I'd stated earlier. Only thing I could say is that we both have a Pioneer DDJ-SX, although I don't see why that would be a factor.
 
Stop comparing this app to DJAY, that's a TOTALLY different program........
 
I'm comparing DJays remote app to VDJs remote app.

Unless I'm missing something they are pretty much exactly the same thing, just for their respective program's nah?!

Except theirs has had a browser since inception.

What's the problem with comparing two different apps that attempt to do the same thing here? Other than that it shows how flawed the remote for VDJ is if theirs destroys this one in usability.
 
Fine whatever, go use theirs then. Problem solved.
 
Well that's my point that I made in my first post eh. That's exactly what i have to do right now, which is why I want this one fixed so I don't have to use that program anymore for certain events.

Seriously why are you so filled with contempt for me just because I point out how crippled the VDJ remote is in its present form?
Did you personally design it and are felling hurt by my words, what is it?

Nothing I've said is not demonstrably true yet you seem so bitter that I dare say it.

Do I really need to preface it every time with something like "I love VDJ but..."
Obviously this is in fact true otherwise I would be happy using DJAY.

But now man up mate and answer my previous posts question.

You said to stop comparing it to DJays remote because "that's a totally DIFFERENT program" and I responded that its the same basic idea is it not? Your answer was ....disappointing frankly.


Its been over two and a half years since its had any attention. And this thread is the first one I've seen of many threads, some started by myself, but many also by others, that someone from Atomix has taken the few seconds to talk to us about it.

TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

And you get snippy with me for daring to complain. They deserve to be complained to on this point, if you can not see that then you suffer from blind loyalty. As I've said before, if DJays remote app can browse why can't this one. They are a two bit operation compared to Atomix.

But.......I love VDJ. There, can you not treat me like pond scum now? :)
 
data transfer issues will be a problem. Storing the XML file locally would help and the search would be local and quick. Just syncing the playlist would be a start. Searching prior to going walkabout would solve half the problem.

DJ's need to leave the booth for many reasons. I have certain "routines" where I will interact with the guests and being able play/pause without having to run back to the booth would be great - if the remote app worked on Android!

You could also introduce guests from the door as they enter rather than from behind your booth, again am much more interactive experience!

That said - Didn't Atomix announce that VDJ was being ported to IOS as well? If it runs as a "companion" device then you have the best of both worlds right. So maybe investing time in iRemote right now really isn't the right thing to do.

Guess we'll only find out when VDJ8 is released. Until then, I'm not sure this thread will go anywhere...

Cheers,

Roy
 
If its true that an iOS companion app would come out then stating that clearly in a thread like this would end it for me instantly.

If that's not the case however then from what I read from the Atomix person who chimed in earlier it seems their approach is unnecessarily complicated. Syncing a massive database may not be practical, fair enough, but why not just convert the basic details of tracks names, artists etc to a text file and have the app tap that. Alternatively, have a look at how DJay remote app achieved it and copy that basic idea. Its clearly possible if they can do it so if your approach doesn't seem tenable then change it, simplify it.

 
Hmm, mine never crashed during a gig not either when run out of battery ;-)
Maybe you really should raise a ticket and we will have a look into it.

I love the app as it is, but it really would be great when you can serach a track by using a iremote searchbar.

But not sure if i understand why everybody say it is not possible to "browse".
I can scroll through each folder and so the stored tracks.
If you mean you can't serach a track by using a serachbar, you are right.

But this would be the only + feature beside multi touch from my point of view.
Hope really this will come.

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The DJay App is from my point of view a stand alone product for iPad use only and will only use the iPad located tracks, right?

Our iRemote App is a app which will controll by remote the computer based VDJ version.
Thats our idea behind that and i don't believe it will change.

I use it in the pre hour or when i have to run to wash my hands ;-) and it need a little bit longer then expected. ;-)

I can't really see why we should change that. Only because others do it different?
If you really want to use a ipad as a backup for emergencies you just can use DJay or simpel iTunes.
 
I don't mean their standalone iphone/ipad app. I'm talking about their Remote App for their Mac version of DJay. Is that where some of this confusion comes from perhaps. They are different apps.


https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/djay-remote/id355721990?mt=8

Yeah I know you search track by track, but I'm taking about a browser, and yes search too I guess.
 
Ok, i don't really know this product but where is the difference in general?

You have a Mac based DJay software product which can be controlled by remote with this app.

Simular then Pro Full and iRemote, right?

Additional they offer a stand alone product for iPad only.
Thats the only difference i can see!

We do not offer a iPad only VDJ stand alone product.


Sorry but i don't understand what you mean with "browse!
Can you show me a screenshot/photo from what you are talking about?

Thx :-)
 
I believe he wants to be able to see his entire library on the iPad as well as the laptop.
 
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