the SOUND INSURGENT
Ok I have a Mixdeck and I love it, anyways the flight case has a lot of room to raise the unit up about another inch (maybe more if you wanted). Anyways I have been doing some reading and these 19" rack computers are around the same price as a decent but they can be upgraded and some are just power houses. I'm thinking I wanna put one of these in the case under the Mixdeck and then buy a small 10" touch screen to go with it (I figure then I won't need a mouse or keyboard, could be wrong though) and have everything in a one package. Well after searching around and reading up I found one that looks promising, http://www.superlogics.com/industrial-computers/rack-mount-pc-computer/SL-1U-GF9300-LG/265-3926.htm#access
I would like you thoughts on it, good or bad or maybe you have some other recommendations that would be better but along that price range. Also the size is 19x11, I would to keep it around there if at all possible.
So fill me in, I'm looking forward to your input!! Thanks for the time and info
Huey
I would like you thoughts on it, good or bad or maybe you have some other recommendations that would be better but along that price range. Also the size is 19x11, I would to keep it around there if at all possible.
So fill me in, I'm looking forward to your input!! Thanks for the time and info
Huey
Posted Sun 31 Jul 11 @ 1:11 am
discobrian24
Man I like that thing!! Upgrade the RAM in that baby.. I dont know anything about these things, but I assume it would be awesome if set up correctly.
Posted Sun 31 Jul 11 @ 1:57 am
discobrian24
Also upgrade to the Quad Core. But I almost wonder if it would be alot cheaper to build one yourself.
Posted Sun 31 Jul 11 @ 1:59 am
jbart19
I have a mixdeck too and this is a really interesting idea - I am sure it could be done but the biggest issue will be heat when dealing with desktop class processors. Gets the brain spinning though .......
This might be a better option http://www.superlogics.com/industrial-computers/rack-mount-pc-computer/SL-1U-3-H67BL-LG/265-4047.htm
after doing some measurements with some very slight modifications to the foam inserts in my Mixdeck case you could get up to 2.5" of vertical space under the mixdeck and dimensions of 20" x 12" to create your pc - I have seen a lot of custom cases with much less room than this
This might be a better option http://www.superlogics.com/industrial-computers/rack-mount-pc-computer/SL-1U-3-H67BL-LG/265-4047.htm
after doing some measurements with some very slight modifications to the foam inserts in my Mixdeck case you could get up to 2.5" of vertical space under the mixdeck and dimensions of 20" x 12" to create your pc - I have seen a lot of custom cases with much less room than this
Posted Sun 31 Jul 11 @ 2:21 am
jbart19
If I was looking to to do this I think I would start with a build something like this:
http://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-120-102W-power-kit $60 Power Supply
http://www.mini-box.com/M350-VESA-Display-Mounts $30 Mounting Bracket
http://www.mini-box.com/M350-universal-mini-itx-enclosure $40 Case
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0359809 $100 Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0361415 $70 Processor
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364226 $90 Ram
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0352226 $150 External Hard Drive
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0319543 $30 Wireless Adapter
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0361168 $140 Win 7 Pro
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364779 $140 SSD for OS
Problem is that comes out to around $900 before adding the touch screen. You can get a pretty nice laptop for that money but this would be a very decent rig.
Would need a little miscellaneous hardware to mount it I would create a backing plate on the underside of the case to carry the load form the VESA mounting kit and High density foam to build risers to support the mixdeck. If you know how to build a PC this would not be a hard project though.
Without having to follow the links here are the basic specs:
3.1 ghz I3 Dual core processor
8gb low power Ram
HD 2000 Graphics with HDMI out
Wireless N Networking
3TB main HD w/ USB 3.0
64GB internal SSD for Operating System
=====================================================
My main concern would be doing searches for songs without a keyboard - the way a touch screen would be mounted it could be difficult to type in search terms
Could use something like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823701035 $55
I use that to sit in bed and connect my TV to my laptop. Set the laptop next to the TV and connect to my laptop's blutooth and just use this keyboard form across the room.
Would need to ad a bluetooth dongle to the PC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833340019 $10
At that point the screen would not need to be touch capable though.
http://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-120-102W-power-kit $60 Power Supply
http://www.mini-box.com/M350-VESA-Display-Mounts $30 Mounting Bracket
http://www.mini-box.com/M350-universal-mini-itx-enclosure $40 Case
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0359809 $100 Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0361415 $70 Processor
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364226 $90 Ram
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0352226 $150 External Hard Drive
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0319543 $30 Wireless Adapter
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0361168 $140 Win 7 Pro
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364779 $140 SSD for OS
Problem is that comes out to around $900 before adding the touch screen. You can get a pretty nice laptop for that money but this would be a very decent rig.
Would need a little miscellaneous hardware to mount it I would create a backing plate on the underside of the case to carry the load form the VESA mounting kit and High density foam to build risers to support the mixdeck. If you know how to build a PC this would not be a hard project though.
Without having to follow the links here are the basic specs:
3.1 ghz I3 Dual core processor
8gb low power Ram
HD 2000 Graphics with HDMI out
Wireless N Networking
3TB main HD w/ USB 3.0
64GB internal SSD for Operating System
=====================================================
My main concern would be doing searches for songs without a keyboard - the way a touch screen would be mounted it could be difficult to type in search terms
Could use something like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823701035 $55
I use that to sit in bed and connect my TV to my laptop. Set the laptop next to the TV and connect to my laptop's blutooth and just use this keyboard form across the room.
Would need to ad a bluetooth dongle to the PC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833340019 $10
At that point the screen would not need to be touch capable though.
Posted Sun 31 Jul 11 @ 4:30 am
the SOUND INSURGENT
As far as heat goes I would mod the case, basically have a removable back panel like the front. I figure that should help it breath alitte more. For the screen I could build a mount no problem there. I would for sure up the ram as well as the processor.
Thanks for the time fellas
Huey
Thanks for the time fellas
Huey
Posted Sun 31 Jul 11 @ 8:46 am
mp3jrick
I have a 1u monitor fold mount if you are looking for options.
http://www.virtualdj.com/homepage/mp3jrick/blogs/628/The_Old_Shit.html
http://www.virtualdj.com/homepage/mp3jrick/blogs/628/The_Old_Shit.html
Posted Sun 31 Jul 11 @ 10:24 am
the SOUND INSURGENT
Nice Rick, thats exactly what I had in mind but not quite so big, lol! I got a good feeling about this project.
Thanks for the time and info
Huey
Thanks for the time and info
Huey
Posted Sun 31 Jul 11 @ 10:45 am
mp3jrick
Well that unit was backbreaking HUGE, but the mount was the most important part.
Watch out for the heat with that 1u.
With my new smaller system I keep thinking I am forgetting something when I head out for a gig.
Watch out for the heat with that 1u.
With my new smaller system I keep thinking I am forgetting something when I head out for a gig.
Posted Sun 31 Jul 11 @ 10:58 am
the SOUND INSURGENT
Any suggestions as far as keeping the heat in line? I plan on making the back panel removeable like the front of the case but if I can do any more to help I'm all ears, lol!
Thanks for the time and info
Huey
Thanks for the time and info
Huey
Posted Sun 31 Jul 11 @ 11:49 am
synthet1c
I would make a few holes in the bottom of the case and put in a few fans, some for intake and some for exhaust, that would get the air flowing over your cpu and gpu. computer fans cost nothing on ebay
Posted Sun 31 Jul 11 @ 12:28 pm
jbart19
As far as heat I think daisy chaining a few of these would be easy to mount and would move plenty of air.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835888309
The case I would be using allows the standard CPU fan to be used and has a spot to add a 40mm fan to the front panel along with a perforated skin that allows a lot of convection flow.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835191001
That monitor mount looks promising but wouldn't really work on the mixdeck case since the top of the case has to go to vertical before being removed that would cause some issues for mounting the monitor directly to the case. trying to figure that out as we speak.
just to be sure we are all on the same page - we are all referring these design ideas to the standard Numark 2- piece road case right?
Just looked at the pricing again, the original link for the 1u unit you started the thread with did not include an OS and only 1GB of ram along with only a 500 GB HD for $650 Adding an OS and upping the RAM total to usable amount brings you right up to where my design sits at just under $900.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835888309
The case I would be using allows the standard CPU fan to be used and has a spot to add a 40mm fan to the front panel along with a perforated skin that allows a lot of convection flow.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835191001
That monitor mount looks promising but wouldn't really work on the mixdeck case since the top of the case has to go to vertical before being removed that would cause some issues for mounting the monitor directly to the case. trying to figure that out as we speak.
just to be sure we are all on the same page - we are all referring these design ideas to the standard Numark 2- piece road case right?
Just looked at the pricing again, the original link for the 1u unit you started the thread with did not include an OS and only 1GB of ram along with only a 500 GB HD for $650 Adding an OS and upping the RAM total to usable amount brings you right up to where my design sits at just under $900.
Posted Sun 31 Jul 11 @ 12:34 pm
the SOUND INSURGENT
My case is 2 parts, the bottom and the lid. The lid opens all the way up and it has the hook hinges so that monitor stand would work, youd just have to fold it forward over the Mixdeck not back like Ricks. As for the OS I have it already so pretty much I just need the RAM and a bigger harddrive. This is gonna be badass, lol!!
Huey
Huey
Posted Sun 31 Jul 11 @ 12:44 pm
jbart19
So you were planning on having the monitor rest inside the mixdeck case while traveling with it? I don't see how there is enough space to have the monitor rest on top of the mixdeck and build the computer underneath. Based on my measurements - which I took by raising the mixdeck up on stacked CD's until faders made a slightly noticeable impression on the foam in the case lid when I closed and locked it down - not the most scientific approach but very useable - there is a total of 2.5" of vertical space inside the case that the mixdeck does not use. nowhere near enough to have both the computer and the monitor inside the case when closed.
Posted Sun 31 Jul 11 @ 12:54 pm
the SOUND INSURGENT
Bro Im only gonna be using a 10" touch screen, not some 19" monitor. If DJDAB can do all of this with a case alittle bigger then a turntable case then I can do it with this. It helps to work in a machine shop, lol! If all else fails I build another lid with a little more head room, but I dont think I'll have to ;-)
Huey
Huey
Posted Sun 31 Jul 11 @ 12:58 pm
jbart19
yeah the machine shop access makes it a little easier :)
If you just modified the current lid hinge system to have removable pins where you could pop out the pins and lift the lid off vertically instead of having to hinge backward it would make things a lot less complicated.
If you remove the foam from the bottom of the case you can get almost another 1/2" of vertical space.
If you just modified the current lid hinge system to have removable pins where you could pop out the pins and lift the lid off vertically instead of having to hinge backward it would make things a lot less complicated.
If you remove the foam from the bottom of the case you can get almost another 1/2" of vertical space.
Posted Sun 31 Jul 11 @ 1:06 pm
synthet1c
This is a little off topic but you should get two screens and make a skin that is 2152 pixels wide (twice the size) and have the browser on a touch screen & vdj on another normal screen, just put a some drop zones on the browser screen and you would be sweet for having a 4 deck skin and be able to see it. Also you should try to fabricate a hinge so the screen collapses into the case, this looks like a good lightweight touchscreen
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mimo-Monster-Touch-10-inch-USB-Touchscreen-Monitor-/290592874131?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item43a8af5e93
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mimo-Monster-Touch-10-inch-USB-Touchscreen-Monitor-/290592874131?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item43a8af5e93
Posted Sun 31 Jul 11 @ 1:27 pm
mp3jrick
Huey
When I ditched the rack mount I began using a second padded laptop bag for my 17 monitor, did it for years that way.
Worked like a charm.
Just one of those things I think I am missing when I leave for a gig now, lol.
When I ditched the rack mount I began using a second padded laptop bag for my 17 monitor, did it for years that way.
Worked like a charm.
Just one of those things I think I am missing when I leave for a gig now, lol.
Posted Sun 31 Jul 11 @ 1:28 pm
jbart19
Thought about this a little more came up with a combo that will use the least vertical space and should be significantly more powerful than the original link for about the same price:
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0359809 ---------------$70 3.1Ghz I-3 Processor w/ HD2000 graphics
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0361415 ---------------$100 Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364226 ---------------$90 8GB low power Ram
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364641 ---------------$35 N-Wireless adapter
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145472 ---------------$180 3TB HD 7200rpm 64MB cache
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811165405 ---------------$130 Case 1u 19"x11"x1.75"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835114094 ---------------$30 low profile CPU cooler
Total price - $635
you said you already have an OS to install still the heat could be an issue but the processor is only 65w so that should help and the ram is specially designed for low power and heat.
This will easily fit under the mixdeck with room to spare on top for your monitor on top. :)
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0359809 ---------------$70 3.1Ghz I-3 Processor w/ HD2000 graphics
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0361415 ---------------$100 Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364226 ---------------$90 8GB low power Ram
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364641 ---------------$35 N-Wireless adapter
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145472 ---------------$180 3TB HD 7200rpm 64MB cache
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811165405 ---------------$130 Case 1u 19"x11"x1.75"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835114094 ---------------$30 low profile CPU cooler
Total price - $635
you said you already have an OS to install still the heat could be an issue but the processor is only 65w so that should help and the ram is specially designed for low power and heat.
This will easily fit under the mixdeck with room to spare on top for your monitor on top. :)
Posted Tue 02 Aug 11 @ 4:30 am
the SOUND INSURGENT
Well looks nice but it won't work cause the CPU cooler is a 2U design, those Hitachi drives are know to die rather quickly (I've heard) and your missing the CD/DVD drive. I'm not rich but i m a firm believer in 'you gotta pay to play. Summers almost over so things will slow down here so it'll be a nice winter project, lol! Appreciate the finds though.
Huey
Huey
Posted Tue 02 Aug 11 @ 7:12 am
