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Topic: I'm torn. Virtual Vinyl or VDJ???

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mainedjPRO InfinityMember since 2006
I was looking at the Numark CUE software, and discovered the upcoming Numark Virtual Vinyl software/hardware.
I am assuming that it like Serato in not needing a seperate sound card, but that the software is actually like Virtual DJ. I have a M-Audio Fast Track Pro on order along with a Dell e1505 laptop. The Fast track pro order can be canceled though.
It comes with the time coded records as well as the cd's (which I would use 97% of the time).

I was going to purchase virtual DJ today, and after reading different bits about Virtual Vinyl, I am thinking that I am going to be getting the best of both worlds, for about the same price.

What do all think, and what software has more advantages.

From what I have read the Virtual Vinyl is going to be $499.
Thanks in advance!
 

Posted Sun 22 Oct 06 @ 6:51 pm
sbangsPRO InfinityMember since 2004
lol just so u know virtual vinyl is vdj with a nurmark sticker on it so u still get the goodsoftware
 

Posted Sun 22 Oct 06 @ 6:56 pm
Numark Virtual Vinyl: A package that includes software + soundcard + timecode vinyls
- Numark Cue
- timecoded vinyls branded with Numark lgoo
- Soundcard branded with Numark logo


The software is the same as Virtual DJ.

You can of course get Virtual DJ , and use the card you ordered too.
And then get timecode vinyls from here (branded with VDJ logo)

Or get the full package from Numark ;)

 

Posted Sun 22 Oct 06 @ 7:00 pm
mainedjPRO InfinityMember since 2006
Wouldn't the interface that comes with the Virtual Vinyl be better suited, or would it matter?
 

Posted Sun 22 Oct 06 @ 7:04 pm
The Numark interface is tailored for the software... true :)

But good pro soundcards that run asio at low latency will peform as well..
Such as U46dj, maya44, Delta44 etc etc.

The Numark solution will no be available before another couple of months by the way
 

Posted Sun 22 Oct 06 @ 8:02 pm
mainedjPRO InfinityMember since 2006
So a M-Audio fast track pro will do the same thing then?
 

Posted Sun 22 Oct 06 @ 8:06 pm
mainedjPRO InfinityMember since 2006
I guess I need to just decide if I like the VDJ or the CUE better then...or did I read that there is a skin for VDJ just like CUE somewhere?
 

Posted Sun 22 Oct 06 @ 8:10 pm
erxonPRO InfinityMember since 2003
 

Posted Sun 22 Oct 06 @ 8:14 pm
guppy77Home userMember since 2006
Ciao a tutti
mi chiamo Pasquale detto lino
io voglio diventere un Dj non professionista un Dj normale.
Io sono appasionato della musica mixata se io voglio sapere se lo posso fare si o no
Il programma e bello virtual Dj io fatto 12 cd mixati da me
cia a tutti
 

Posted Sun 22 Oct 06 @ 8:37 pm
Try the demo, and you will see it has almost same skin as Numark Cue
http://www.simtel.net/product.download.mirrors.php?id=98165

Any Soundcard may work with VDJ, unless you want to use TCVs, the only M-Audio available for TCVs use are the Delta Series and M-Audio 1814 Firewire. You can use M-Audio Delta 44 or 66 or 1010LT or Firewire 1814, also Terratec 88 or even a Creative X-Fi Platinum or Fatal1ty or Elite Pro. And of course the Esi-Pro U46DJ and others which have 2 Stereo line INputs and 2 stereo Line Outputs and works in ASIO.

The Fastrack don't have enough inputs to handle 2 Turntables.

So I'd cancel that card if I where you... ;) Get a different soundcard...
 

Posted Sun 22 Oct 06 @ 8:54 pm
mainedjPRO InfinityMember since 2006
 

Posted Sun 22 Oct 06 @ 9:51 pm
mainedjPRO InfinityMember since 2006
Here are the other details:


insert jack (¼” TRS) for outboard processors


2 balanced outputs (¼” TRS)


4 unbalanced outputs (RCA)


S/PDIF digital I/O with w/ 2-channel PCM


S/PDIF out also supports pass-through of AC-3/DTS surround-encoded content


1 x 1 MIDI I/O with activity LEDs


headphone output (¼” TRS) with level control


headphone A/B source switch for DJ-style cueing


input/playback mix control for hardware direct monitoring


mono switch for input/playback direct monitoring


master output level control


near zero-latency hardware direct monitoring


low-latency ASIO software monitoring


USB connection to computer


powered via USB or optional AC power adapter


Kensington lock port


Mac and PC compatible; class compliant with Mac OS X 10.3.9 and higher

* 16-bit/48kHz 2 x 4 operation is class-compliant. Driver installation required to access more I/O.





Digital Audio Interface Specifications 48kHz sampling rate unless otherwise stated

Mic Inputs (A/D)

Input Impedance 2.7k Ohms unbalanced, 5.4k Ohms balanced

Maximum Input Level from +24dBu @ min gain, pad on to -40dBu @ max gain, no pad

Channel-to-Channel Crosstalk < -110dB

SNR -101dB, A-weighted

Dynamic Range 101dB, A-weighted

THD+N 0.005% (-86dB) @ -1dBFS, 1kHz

Frequency Response 20Hz to 20kHz, +/- 0.1dB

Pre-amp Gain >40dB

Pad -20dB pad

Instrument Inputs (A/D)

Input Impedance >220k Ohm, unbalanced

Maximum Input Level From +22dBV @ min gain, pad on to -42dBV @ max gain no pad

SNR -100dB, A-weighted

Dynamic Range 100dB, A-weighted

THD+N 0.005% (-86dB) @ -1dBFS, 1kHz

Frequency Response 20Hz to 20kHz, +/- 0.1dB @ 48kHz sample rate

Pre-amp Gain >40dB

Pad -20dB pad

Line Inputs (A/D)

Input Impedance 20k Ohms balanced and unbalanced

Maximum Input Level +4.1dBu balanced, +1.9dBV unbalanced

Channel-to-Channel Crosstalk < -110dB

SNR -101dB, A-weighted

Dynamic Range 101dB, A-weighted

THD+N 0.005% (-86dB) @ -1dBFS, 1kHz

Frequency Response 20Hz to 20kHz, +/- 0.1dB @ 48kHz sample rate
20Hz to 40kHz, +/- 0.1dB @ 96kHz sample rate

Pad -20dB pad

Input Inserts (analog)

Maximum Level Send +6dBV, unbalanced

Maximum Level Return +6dBV, unbalanced

THD+N 0.00281% (-91dB) @ -1dB from max level, 1kHz

Frequency Response 20Hz to 40kHz, +/- 0.1dB

Line Outputs (D/A)

Output Impedance 150 Ohms unbalanced, 300 Ohms balanced

Maximum Output Level +1.8dBV, unbalanced
+10.1dBu, balanced

Channel-to-Channel Crosstalk < -108dB

SNR -103dB, A-weighted

Dynamic Range 103dB, A-weighted

THD+N 0.005% (-86dB) @ -1dBFS, 1kHz

Frequency Response 20Hz to 20kHz, +/- 0.3dB @ 48kHz sample rate

Headphone Output (D/A)

Maximum Output -2.5dBV at THD < 0.05% into 32 ohms

Working Range 32 to 600 ohms

I/O Bit Depth Sample Rate (kHz)

With Drivers 4 x 4 16 44.1/48
2 x 4 24 44.1/48
2-in OR 2-out 24 88.2/96

Class compliant 2x4 16 44.1/48







WDM


ASIO 2


Core Audio






Pentium 3 – 500 MHz (higher speed CPU may be necessary for laptops)


256MB RAM


DirectX 9.0c or higher


Windows XP* (SP2)


(Windows 2000, 98, 98SE, ME & NT not supported)


USB port


* Home and Professional Edition only. Windows Media Center Edition is not currently supported.






Macintosh G3** 600 / G4** 667MHz (higher speed may be necessary for laptops)


256MB RAM


OS X 10.3.9 / 10.4.2 (earlier versions of Mac operating systems are not supported)


USB port


Dolby AC-3 and DTS pass-through with Apple DVD player


* M-Audio suggests that you also check the minimum system requirements for your software, as they may greater than theabove.


** G3/G4 accelerator cards not supported; native FireWire ports required.
 

Posted Sun 22 Oct 06 @ 9:59 pm


As far as I know, the Fast Track Pro does NOT have 2 regular RCA inputs for connecting turntables.

You can connect mic & instrument, but doubt you can use the same input for turntables.


 

Posted Sun 22 Oct 06 @ 10:27 pm
Get this card and you'll do great with Virtual DJ ;)



Best USB solution...

For internal cards, get Delta 44 or similar...


 

Posted Sun 22 Oct 06 @ 10:52 pm
apopsisdjPRO InfinitySenior staffMember since 2003
Exactly...
 

Posted Mon 23 Oct 06 @ 1:03 am


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