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Exactly. As in browse my library from the iRemote.

I put the link up because you were comparing iRemote to their standalone iOS app, and then saying its different. So I pointed out that that was not the app I speak off. Fact is their remote app has had a full browse ability and search since it came out years ago and Atomix are saying its too hard because you need to sync 200mb database. This is obviously not entirely accurate or an Incorrect way to go about it because theirs works great. Its just that their main program is lacking compared to VDJ. But their remote app nailed it.

To quote you...

"The DJay App is from my point of view a stand alone product for iPad use only and will only use the iPad located tracks, right?

Our iRemote App is a app which will controll by remote the computer based VDJ version.
Thats our idea behind that and i don't believe it will change."
 
From what I've seen, the new Pioneer RemoteBox software has browsing too - wirelessly from the XDJ R1.

Granted there's a 10,000 file limit on the R1, but whether that's related or not I couldn't say. 10k is better than nothing though!
 
Sintar wrote :
Exactly. As in browse my library from the iRemote.


I'm not at home at the moment, but i believe this is possible right now also on iRemote side.
Maybe not the same way or view like you can do this with the other app, but it should be possible.

Let me have a look later :-)


http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/139303/Virtual_DJ_Skins/_NEW__iTCmania_(iPhone_Skin).html
When i click there on FOLDER i can use the up and down buttons to move up or down through the computer folders!
When i then use FILES i can scroll through the files with the up and down buttons from the above selected folder.
Also i can switch to the playlist and sidelist.

Guess it is just needed from a skin mate to create a bigger "browser" field where you can see more with one look.
Maybe as a additional window/page?

But in general this is what you mean, right?


So for me it does not make sense to route the hole database content from computer to iPad or iPhone when you can view the content live :-)

PS: Will ask DJDAD to have a look into this Topic.
 
did i hear my name ? :)

Every application which is offered to the market, has a specific purpose and goal. The iRemote application is a tool that provides you the necessary features that you will need if you step out of the booth for a while, and thats exactly what it does.
Whatever issues you may have with the connection, you need to consider that the Wifi connection itself may create them. If you are experiencing crashes using the iRemote application, please submit a ticket in Support and provide the crashreport or/and any additional info.

The iRemote Skin Engine can only show the selected track and folder and provides the actions to navigate through browser windows (folders/files/playlist/sidelist), folders and song. I understand that having the entire database would be more handy, but this is just an additional feature, not something that prevent you from using it.
If you want to step out of the booth, add a few songs in a Playlist and have them available in the "mini" browser of the iRemote skin. Again, the application was not designed to provide you the ability to do the whole show from the bar ;)
 
Haui70 wrote :
So for me it does not make sense to route the hole database content from computer to iPad or iPhone when you can view the content live


It does make sense, for (at least) two reasons. For me, the biggest reason is the ability to browse data on the iPad when the computer (VDJ) is not there - crashed etc. In this scenario, viewing live will not work!

On a tangent, I see that there are various database viewing apps for the iPad which read various formats. It might take a bit of work converting, but I could for example go XML->Access->iPad app or XML->SQL->iPad app.

Native ability would of course be best!
 
groovindj wrote :
Haui70 wrote :
So for me it does not make sense to route the hole database content from computer to iPad or iPhone when you can view the content live


It does make sense, for (at least) two reasons. For me, the biggest reason is the ability to browse data on the iPad when the computer (VDJ) is not there - crashed etc. In this scenario, viewing live will not work!


Ehm, when the computer has crashed - how will the database content help to handle the silence on the dabcefloor?
It is just the database!

Or are you talking about to have the same audio files on Ipad side then on computer side?
If thisis the goal you have to copy before the hoem compter based tracks also onto your iPad by using iTunes.
So you can use them during a computer crash till the computer is back to life!


@Babis, is it possible to add a folder/files view with more lines to to see with one look for example 20tracks and then scroll down to see the next 20 and so on?
 
Something like?
 
Haui70 wrote :

@Babis, is it possible to add a folder/files view with more lines to to see with one look for example 20tracks and then scroll down to see the next 20 and so on?


No thats not possible.
And I think you guys might understand iRemote completely wrong.. the iREMOTE in name should give a clue, ;)

Its not meant to be, nor is working as, a stand alone dj software ;)

Same goes for Serato Remote too by the way, its not a stand alone dj software but a REMOTE.. just like a controller.
Its there to add extra easy to use features, such as pads, sliders, current track info etc to complement the controller in use.

Hence neither Serato Remote or VDJ iRemote have a full blown browser, etc.. It does have scroll up and down in browser (buttons), something Serato dont have. And has buttons,sliders, as a REMOTE companion to your PC (And both serato and vdj connect TO your pc)

But in future, maybe a stand alone app... Thats not how it was intended at this stage though ;)
 
And that's how I use it, never had a crash and I'm working on a new skin.

Thanks Norway, hopefully that cleared some things up for people........
 
Haui70 wrote :
Ehm, when the computer has crashed - how will the database content help to handle the silence on the dabcefloor?


The dance floor will not be silent if my computer crashes. As I stated earlier (twice!) I do not DJ from my computer. I simply use it as a database/song browser. It would be nice to be able to use the iPad the same way, so I can have a backup to my computer for browsing only - not playback.
 
Sintar wrote :
Seriously why are you so filled with contempt for me just because I point out how crippled the VDJ remote is in its present form?


That is in your head man and your freaking out comes across in your posts. You were told that it works fine from other people and that you should open a ticket.

Yea that was me who said you wanted it fixed today, and at one point in another thread you said to Atomix "take a day off from VDJ 8 and fix it". End point

I am here supporting your cause for where it really does fail for me and others. Chill out dude.
 
groovindj wrote :
Haui70 wrote :
Ehm, when the computer has crashed - how will the database content help to handle the silence on the dabcefloor?


The dance floor will not be silent if my computer crashes. As I stated earlier (twice!) I do not DJ from my computer. I simply use it as a database/song browser. It would be nice to be able to use the iPad the same way, so I can have a backup to my computer for browsing only - not playback.



Just to understand :-)

You use for DJING a "real CD" or Vinyl system (no timecode) and your computer with VDJ on it just to have a look into the database?
Beside of that you would like to have a backup iPad with only the VDJ database on it (no music files) to view only the database?
 
DHoude wrote :
Sintar wrote :
Seriously why are you so filled with contempt for me just because I point out how crippled the VDJ remote is in its present form?


That is in your head man and your freaking out comes across in your posts. You were told that it works fine from other people and that you should open a ticket.

Yea that was me who said you wanted it fixed today, and at one point in another thread you said to Atomix "take a day off from VDJ 8 and fix it". End point

I am here supporting your cause for where it really does fail for me and others. Chill out dude.



Come on mate. Freakin out....really? The other guy I wrote the contempt thing to was clearly being bitter at me, if you can't see that you're blind, plus I slipped a joke in there at the end even, of anyone needs to 'chill out' perhaps you should consider looking closer to home nay. And your quite of mine, two points, one, I wrote 'a day' not 'today' and two, that is exactly my point from earlier, that this is the first time they have ever (that I've come across) actually talked to us about this.

All this talk of 'that's not what iRemote means" kinda thing is just silly. If they don't think its meant to have the ability to choose a track then why do they have the ability to see one track at a time? Seeing one track is quite aweful for choosing tracks, might aswell not have it at all. Even seeing 20 or so as someone said earlier would be kinda useful, assuming you could press an arrow and see the next 20 of course.

Some of you seriously lack vision if you fail to see how this is useful for some people, whether YOU personally want to use it or not.

Great if the iRemote doesn't crash your systems, I get that point already, and yes I'll open a ticket, but we are not really talking about that anymore are we? This topic moved to browsing a while ago I thought when it became clear others were not having the same issues we are.
 
Haui70 wrote :
your computer with VDJ on it just to have a look into the database?

backup iPad with only the VDJ database on it (no music files) to view only the database?



Exactly! There is music on my computer and my iPad but it's not used during a gig.

If something did go wrong with my main system, I could switch to using VDJ on the computer because it's already running.

If something happened to the computer (my browser) though, having an iPad as a backup would be more convenient (take up less space, boot faster) than a spare computer.
 
So are you playing CD's then?

I don't understand your setup at all .......
 
kradcliffe wrote :
So are you playing CD's then?

I don't understand your setup at all .......


No, there aren't any CDs involved. My decks are Denon HS-5500s with internal hard drives. All the music is played directly from them.

Each one has a keyboard attached, so I can search for and load tracks fast - but the decision on what to play (the browsing) is done on my laptop with VDJ, because it's easier. I can see far more tracks at once on the laptop, and setting up filter folders etc. is easier too.
 
OMG, that has to be the pits, Lmao!! Groovin you trip me out sometimes, lol!
 
The pits? Far from it. For me, it's the closest to an ideal rig I've ever used - and I've done turntables, CDs and DJ software.

I used to DJ purely from a computer, using PCDJ Red first, then Virtual DJ - but I found it wasn't as reliable as using dedicated hardware.

For instance, each HS5500 backs up the other. They're actually two decks in one so, if one dies, I can do the rest of the gig from the other deck. If just the internal drive dies, they can play from USB flash drives or external hard drive. They can also connect to the computer and work as controllers & audio interfaces - again, two decks per unit (four total).

One weak point though is the size of the screen, so I use VDJ on the laptop - which also acts as yet another backup should anything go wrong. If a unit ever comes out with a similar feature set but a more suitable screen, I wouldn't even bother using a computer.

Clients and punters love 'em too. They always get lots of attention. That wouldn't happen if I was DJing from a laptop.
 
kradcliffe wrote :
Guys,

As I've stated before you can use splashtop on both Android and iOS to remote control VDJ. It's not a perfect solution but depending on your device and selected skin you can control VDJ as you see it with the full capabilities including browser. All you need to do is create an ad-hoc wifi network from your PC.

I too bought the VDJ app but it's not really any good in it's current form.

Here's it on the Galaxy Note 2 working like a charm and the stylus really helps. I've been using this for months with the ipad previously and it's great!





How can I get the app on my iphone I like that
 
Download "Splash Top", you find it the app store.
 
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