There are 2 kinds of visual meters. The level_meter and the VU_meter.
The level_meter shows the affect of the volume sliders and the EQ. The VU_meter shows the affect of the Gain.
Depending on the way you have chosen to mix (using an external or internal mixer), one of them (or sometimes both) could be useful.
Bottom line, skins should take care of that, and offering different visuals for the levels depending on the Sound setup (or user's selection).
For controllers, there could be a similar choice, i guess.
The level_meter shows the affect of the volume sliders and the EQ. The VU_meter shows the affect of the Gain.
Depending on the way you have chosen to mix (using an external or internal mixer), one of them (or sometimes both) could be useful.
Bottom line, skins should take care of that, and offering different visuals for the levels depending on the Sound setup (or user's selection).
For controllers, there could be a similar choice, i guess.
Posted Sun 25 Nov 12 @ 7:38 am
Just realised the reason why I've never noticed it before: until recently I used a VST for the EQ so any changes made using that were shown on the on-screen channel uv meters. I'd much prefer to use the the new parametric EQ though.
To me it seems logical that the EQ should affect the channel UV meters on screen, after all it's called "PFL" (pre-fade listen) so all changes you make to the sound before the final fader should be heard in the headphones (which they are, thank you VDJ!) but the channel uv meters should also show this too.
At the moment you could be in a situation where, if you don't have very good headphones, you would make some rough adjustments to a track using the EQ, and the channel UV meters would tell you that the two tracks are the same volume, but when you slam in the mix one could be much louder than the other.
Anyway, I won't bang on about it, but to me it seems like it isn't done in the best way at the moment, and all of the industry standard hardware mixers work like I've described so it'd be nice if VDJ could work in the same way too.
P.s. The multi-word search really came into its own at last night's gig, so much quicker to find songs now! Thank you! :-D
To me it seems logical that the EQ should affect the channel UV meters on screen, after all it's called "PFL" (pre-fade listen) so all changes you make to the sound before the final fader should be heard in the headphones (which they are, thank you VDJ!) but the channel uv meters should also show this too.
At the moment you could be in a situation where, if you don't have very good headphones, you would make some rough adjustments to a track using the EQ, and the channel UV meters would tell you that the two tracks are the same volume, but when you slam in the mix one could be much louder than the other.
Anyway, I won't bang on about it, but to me it seems like it isn't done in the best way at the moment, and all of the industry standard hardware mixers work like I've described so it'd be nice if VDJ could work in the same way too.
P.s. The multi-word search really came into its own at last night's gig, so much quicker to find songs now! Thank you! :-D
Posted Sun 25 Nov 12 @ 10:37 am
royvanmeel wrote :
Since I use the Pioneer DDJ Ergo with Virtual DJ, I have a seperate volume button for the Sampler volume.
So I don't think it's a VDJ issue...
Y2KSounds wrote :
When will Virtual DJ fix the Sampler volume so the Sampler volume can be controlled seprately thru the main sound. even though the sample has its own volumes it does not play loud when the fader is to the far left or right, which is a big difference in someone using sera to.. I love virtual but i would like to see the sampler fix... please this is a huge deal. thank you
Since I use the Pioneer DDJ Ergo with Virtual DJ, I have a seperate volume button for the Sampler volume.
So I don't think it's a VDJ issue...
how did you map the Sampler to a different channel, I have all my samples turned up... but its not loud enough when the music is playing live unless i have the fader in the middle. I am using the Denon MC 6000
Posted Mon 26 Nov 12 @ 2:23 am
djranes wrote :
I don't see any issue with the sampler. At least for me I'm happy with it. I even lowered down all the volumes 12 of it due loud output. It's deck independent and it goes directly to the master output not unless you map a certain sample to a certain deck or if by purpose you lowered the VDJ master out certainly it will affect the sample output as well . Otherwise use a 3 line mixer output set-up so you'll have the freedom to control the sampler intensity from an external mixer channel at least.
If its why does the volume of the sample lower when the fader is to the far right or left
Posted Mon 26 Nov 12 @ 2:33 am
I didn't change anything. The DDj Ergo has per deck seperate buttons and volume control for samples only.
But if i remember correctly, they all go directly to the master output no matter which deck i use and how the fader is placed.
But if i remember correctly, they all go directly to the master output no matter which deck i use and how the fader is placed.
Posted Mon 26 Nov 12 @ 2:38 am
After using 7.3 update both live and at home, my regards to team for the new sound engine. Good job and I can't wait for the improvement in the 8-version. All my equipment is (soundcards, mixers, controllers...) now on a professional level. Thanks again!!!
Posted Mon 26 Nov 12 @ 3:35 am
Y2KSounds wrote :
If its why does the volume of the sample lower when the fader is to the far right or left
djranes wrote :
I don't see any issue with the sampler. At least for me I'm happy with it. I even lowered down all the volumes 12 of it due loud output. It's deck independent and it goes directly to the master output not unless you map a certain sample to a certain deck or if by purpose you lowered the VDJ master out certainly it will affect the sample output as well . Otherwise use a 3 line mixer output set-up so you'll have the freedom to control the sampler intensity from an external mixer channel at least.
If its why does the volume of the sample lower when the fader is to the far right or left
This thread might be useful to you:
http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/159775/PC_Version_Technical_Support/Samples_on_individual_decks_and_DN-MC6000_sampler_buttons.html?page=1
Posted Mon 26 Nov 12 @ 9:44 am
@y2kSounds, here's the thing, in 'external mixer' sound setup in virtual DJ (which is what you've got), the sampler sound always comes out of both channel 1 and channel 2, and as you've stated when you've got both channels open and the cross fader in the middle, it's louder.
I've got several ideas for solutions, but there is no setting in virtual DJ to make the sampler sound come through only one deck.
Here's my best suggestion: use virtual DJ in 'master/headphones' mode in the sound setup- then the sampler will go straight to the master output and won't be affected by the channel faders or the cross fader. You will need to put the mc6000 in 'pc mix' mode to do that, but it will work. If you want to make one of the channel faders control the volume of the samples, there's kind of a work around for that, but it's not perfect.
If you're desperate to use the hardware mixer on the mc6000, and really want to avoid the 'pc mix' mode, then there is a work around for that where you use the advanced sound setup to send decks 1 and 2 to the mc6000 but then to route the sampler output to the headphone output on your laptop (or any other audio interface you might have), then use an audio cable to physically connect your laptop's headphone jack to one of the spare mixer channels on the mc6000. That way, you'd get proper volume control and eq on the sampler.
Hope that helps.
I've got several ideas for solutions, but there is no setting in virtual DJ to make the sampler sound come through only one deck.
Here's my best suggestion: use virtual DJ in 'master/headphones' mode in the sound setup- then the sampler will go straight to the master output and won't be affected by the channel faders or the cross fader. You will need to put the mc6000 in 'pc mix' mode to do that, but it will work. If you want to make one of the channel faders control the volume of the samples, there's kind of a work around for that, but it's not perfect.
If you're desperate to use the hardware mixer on the mc6000, and really want to avoid the 'pc mix' mode, then there is a work around for that where you use the advanced sound setup to send decks 1 and 2 to the mc6000 but then to route the sampler output to the headphone output on your laptop (or any other audio interface you might have), then use an audio cable to physically connect your laptop's headphone jack to one of the spare mixer channels on the mc6000. That way, you'd get proper volume control and eq on the sampler.
Hope that helps.
Posted Mon 26 Nov 12 @ 10:24 am
Hi, I have problem in my database, to load music, videos get error, and also appear duplicate files, I can do to fix it
Posted Tue 27 Nov 12 @ 7:28 am
Silly little thing maybe but I would like to see "TRACK NUMBER" added in the column selection, fixing the search to make it more Boolean is great being an Atomix user since its inception ... its great to see this product evolve. I am really looking forward to version 8!
Posted Tue 27 Nov 12 @ 8:35 am
Cool! I've been waiting for the search similar to iTunes (for what seems like) forever! Now NO MORE reason to even open iTunes! This is huge! iTunes is such a RAM hog, peace iTunes!
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Posted Tue 27 Nov 12 @ 11:02 am
How are you guys getting on with the limiter? Better off or on?
Posted Tue 27 Nov 12 @ 6:16 pm
Defo on, but you need to get a skin that has the 'limiter on' notification so you know when to turn it down! Check the skins forum for the thread on it.
I'm sure you know this, but just for others, the sound with the limiter on is definitely better than sound with distortion(!) but the whole point is to make sure the sound doesn't pass the threshold in the first place.
I'm sure you know this, but just for others, the sound with the limiter on is definitely better than sound with distortion(!) but the whole point is to make sure the sound doesn't pass the threshold in the first place.
Posted Tue 27 Nov 12 @ 6:22 pm
I'm still trying to figure out how to get around this warbled sound when scratching. I've tried a couple of different sound cards, and I still get warbled sound. Best so far has been the MC-6000 with ASIO drivers, but I still get crackling when I use ASIO. Close second was an SL2. Only got a warble every now and then. I've seen a few others post that they are having the same problem. Any advice other than increasing scratch latency? That didn't help.
Posted Tue 27 Nov 12 @ 7:51 pm
hahahaha reading through some really old posts and came across this in 2009 :-)
DJ Cyder - Posted Sun 05 Apr 09 @ 2:23 am
I can't believe what I'm reading you guys are asking the VDJ to color the sound output? Are you kidding?
Who would have thought hahaha :-)
DJ Cyder - Posted Sun 05 Apr 09 @ 2:23 am
I can't believe what I'm reading you guys are asking the VDJ to color the sound output? Are you kidding?
Who would have thought hahaha :-)
Posted Fri 30 Nov 12 @ 3:34 am
Thank you for the constant updates, all this stuff is really cool, but the big fix a lot of users are looking for is the underwater / worble fix for V7's and NS7 use. on the Mac. Does 7.3 fix this or do I still have to turn my motor off prior to each cue ? I got 2 kick ass mac book pro's and have done every thing that has been suggested including bumping memory way up there, and it is still a no go in v7.2. Please santa... bring the V7's to work with my Mac in VDJ!!!
Posted Fri 30 Nov 12 @ 9:26 am
There is a bug in 7.3 to do with EQ's, I've posted another thread about it here:
http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/171956/General_Discussion/BUG_VDJ_7_3_Pro__Custom_EQ_Issue.html
:)
http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/171956/General_Discussion/BUG_VDJ_7_3_Pro__Custom_EQ_Issue.html
:)
Posted Fri 30 Nov 12 @ 2:15 pm
Version 7.05 user here. I think I just read EVERY comment here and am excited to upgrade. Haven't yet because of ONE comment I read (I believe the user was dj james lake).
I keep a beat bed running all night in my sampler (put it in/take it out on my 6000 controller, as needed).
He wrote that the sampler wasn't syncing with tracks being played.
Before I upgrade, is that still an open issue? or resolved?
Can't wait to hear the improved engine, but not at the expense of losing my beat bed.
Thanks,
Doug
I keep a beat bed running all night in my sampler (put it in/take it out on my 6000 controller, as needed).
He wrote that the sampler wasn't syncing with tracks being played.
Before I upgrade, is that still an open issue? or resolved?
Can't wait to hear the improved engine, but not at the expense of losing my beat bed.
Thanks,
Doug
Posted Sat 01 Dec 12 @ 3:47 pm
Rename your 7.05 shortcut as well as the Virtualdj.exe file in c:/program files/virtualdj.... Then install 7.3, BAM you still have your 7.05 aswell as the new 7.3 on the desktop.. Try it out.
Posted Sun 02 Dec 12 @ 1:25 am
Since 7.3 the sidelist for autoplay doesnt automatically remove songs that have been played. I have to do it manually now.
Posted Sun 02 Dec 12 @ 3:19 pm