Forum: VirtualDJ Plugins
Karaoke Plugin 2.0?
Topic: Karaoke Plugin 2.0? - Page: 1
Posted Mon 14 May 12 @ 8:25 pm
As an experiment I wrote one that loads to a pre-specified deck (3 in my case) for example rather than the selected one and also keeps track of total play time of the karaoke list too.
The one problem I did have was that I couldn't seem to implement drag and drop in a v6 plugin as the command used in v5 no longer works. To that end I added an 'add' button to the window, and added VDJScript commands so you can add a track to the karaoke list directly from the browser window.
It's not really suitable for public use at the moment but I could look into developing it further.
Posted Mon 14 May 12 @ 9:10 pm
Posted Tue 29 May 12 @ 12:34 pm
Posted Wed 04 Jul 12 @ 6:01 pm
There are only a handful of professional / quasi professional karaoke software options.
The most widely used are:
PCDJ (which is no longer competition, but still prevalent)
The features which help these programs stand out are the following:
Singer history stored
Solid Key Change ability
Scrolling lineup of singers at top or bottom of screen.
Other than that Virtual DJ has the other features already available.
I am writing to plead to the powers that be to include some of these features in VDJ. I know that maybe 10% of your clients are Karaoke Jocks but I'm sure that number would grow if you added these features. One way that i've gotten around the singer history stored is the "Playlists" Feature. I just save a playlist with the customers name and songs, however it's a dumb way of doing it compared to the other programs which automatically save history. Compuhost is probably the most feature rich out of all of the programs. The main features that would help most KJ's is the Singer historys saved (with keychange preference) and the scrolling lineup of the next three to ten singers. Please consider your customer base and the possibility that others might feel as I do. I want the amazing functionality of VDJ and the capabilities of other professional karaoke programs. Please let me know what you others think...
Posted Thu 05 Jul 12 @ 8:29 pm
We just got to be patient and see what V8 will bring us.
Posted Fri 06 Jul 12 @ 12:47 am
I generally use the karaoke feature of VDJ every time i work. It's seems limited in ways, like the fact that the window that pops up for the Karaoke cant be "Full screened" by simply double clicking the window, you need to manually change the size.
Additionally, it would be good to edit the title and artist of the song as well, as sometimes, depending on the actual file name, it shows for e.g. "01 - Robbie Williams - feel" it would be good to have it as just "Robbie Williams - Feel". Lame example i know, but I'm sure you get my point.
I will make a list of things next time i use it, and post it here...I really hope we can help to improve the karaoke function of this program.
Posted Fri 06 Jul 12 @ 4:25 pm
@djcel: I too am trying to develop my own karaoke plugin, and it's coming along great except for a few things I can't accomplish using VDJscript (unless I'm missing something). Loading and playing directly to a deck works fine, but when I'm running a show I like to use playlists and Automix to get smooth transitions. To that end I need a 'playlist_add_top "filename.mp3"' (just like we have 'load "filename.mp3"' syntax). Once it's loaded to the top, I need a 'playlist_mix_next' command (I'm looking for functionality equivalent to double-clicking the next track in the playlist; I'm not sure if 'mix_next' does that).
@jcket: You can edit all of the track information from the browser: search for the song you want to edit, right-click on it, and choose File Infos. You can then edit Title, Author, and anything else you desire.
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Posted Wed 05 Sep 12 @ 8:57 pm
Happy to assist others though.
Posted Fri 07 Sep 12 @ 11:34 am
Posted Mon 24 Sep 12 @ 3:41 pm
Posted Mon 24 Sep 12 @ 3:53 pm
Thank you for working at this. I had collected the SDK and Visual stuff, then life happened and was not able to work on it.
A few things that would be nice in the plugin:
Choose which deck the song loads to, maybe a check box or something.
Choose background behind lyrics and between songs.
Have the singer/song list save to a history file as the songs get loaded.
Choose between starting the song automatically or just loading it to a deck. (I prefer just loading, but others may like the auto play)
Release focus back to browser after loading a deck or adding a song/singer. (I occasionally forget to click back on the browser, and when I start typing a song search, it loads and plays the next singer.)
I like the current features like current singer/next singer, and the ability to position them.
If you have a need for beta testers, PM me.
Posted Tue 25 Sep 12 @ 8:34 am
@er0sion: Disaster recovery is built in. Your singer queue is restored to its last state automatically at startup.
(1) and (4) Customized action for the "Go" button is built in. This means you can load AND/OR play on any deck you want.
(2) Background between songs is a feature of the original plugin and will be included in mine. Background behind lyrics would be difficult to implement because the video for the karaoke is not transparent. It has a solid background. The only way to accomplish this would be to include some kind of chroma key feature in the plugin that would attempt to automatically make part of the karaoke video transparent; this may be possible but I doubt I'll include it in the initial release.
(3) History is already included in my plugin (duh, that's like feature #1), as is support for multiple locations.
(5) Good idea, I will add an option for it. Thanks for the suggestion!
(6) I am planning on including all features from the original Atomix plugin, unless a feature in mine makes it obsolete.
There are several other features that I am including that will make this an enterprise grade plugin, but I'll wait for the beta release to discuss them.
Posted Tue 25 Sep 12 @ 9:32 am
Flagging songs that have already been queue or sang would be awesome as well.
Also, the time that the singer was queued up would be beneficial.
It would also be great to have a config variable for your show start time and show end time (and day), so that you can queue up singers and have an estimated wait time (based on mp3 songs queued up, or apprx 3:45 secs.
Notification if a zip file is invalid when attempting to queue up rather than on play.
*** The ability to lock the queue window to prevent accidental deletions! In the current plugin, hitting backspace deletes the singer without notification when the window is in focus, it's extremely annoying!
I'll post a few other ideas that I have when I get to my home pc.
Posted Tue 25 Sep 12 @ 5:43 pm
The idea of a remote search/enqueue mechanism is an interesting one. Years ago I bought an old NTN/Buzztime game system that I was going to try to hack into my karaoke songbooks. The user would be able to search and put themselves into the rotation right from the convenience of their table. Never really got started on it though; all the parts are proprietary and undocumented, I would have had to build my own Buzztime system from scratch as far as I could tell. That concept would be pretty easy to implement using a laptop though. It wouldn't hurt to have a published API for the karaoke plugin that would allow third party software (like yours) to interact with it in a standardized way.
Songs that are played (sung) are flagged by VirtualDJ in the usual manner, but unfortunately there is no way for my plugin to tell VirtualDJ to flag a song (for example when it is put in the queue).
Queue time is a great suggestion. I will add it.
ETC for the list is already included, but estimated time until singer is also a good idea and I will add it.
I could check ZIP files as they are added to the list, but I feel that this is somewhat outside the scope of my plugin. That falls into the category of maintaining your library. If I did want to include this as a feature, I would have to determine exactly what mechanism VirtualDJ is using to unzip, and implement it myself, otherwise there may be ZIP files that my program can unzip but which VirtualDJ has problems with. I have another utility that I built that recursively unzips an entire directory, written specifically for karaoke folders. It uses the 7zip library, which has a much higher success rate than VirtualDJ or Windows. In other words, I was able to unzip the MP3+CDG for many songs that weren't usable otherwise. Maybe I'll post the program if others will find it useful. By the numbers, the size benefit to using ZIP files is approximately 25%, and storage is cheap these days. I keep my karaoke library uncompressed, to avoid ZIP file corruption or errors during decompression/recompression. If enough people want the feature, I'll figure out how to make it happen, but it's low on my priority list for the time being.
Because my queue window is implemented in a completely different manner than the Atomix plugin, you need not worry about accidental deletions.
Posted Thu 27 Sep 12 @ 7:28 am
Posted Thu 27 Sep 12 @ 7:28 pm
Posted Sun 30 Sep 12 @ 12:56 pm
@bmbingham: Then every skin developer would have to make two versions of their skin, one with karaoke and one without. On the other hand my plugin is designed to integrate with whatever skin you are using, incorporating the skin style into the plugin itself. Also, every person has a different level of need. Someone that is using VirtualDJ to run a karaoke show in the first place probably needs more than the average off the shelf karaoke hosting solution. But it should be an option, not a requirement. You should be able to turn the feature off, like a plugin.
Posted Sun 30 Sep 12 @ 4:02 pm
Posted Thu 04 Oct 12 @ 8:19 pm
Everything's looking and working great so far, and I've incorporated many of the suggestions as indicated in my responses to your posts. Getting much closer to a beta release, and I'll post some screenshots soon.
Posted Tue 09 Oct 12 @ 1:15 pm