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Hi Guys,

I'm not sure if this is the correct forum

I've just (today) purchased VDJ, I use Trakor with the Kontrol S4 but have been asked to have karaoke available at a few weddings coming up this summer. Traktor doesn't do karaoke so after speaking to a few DJ's it seemed running both Traktor and VDJ was the way forward.

At the moment I now have Traktor running normally for the music with the Kontrol S4 and VDJ running the karaoke using the Kontrol soundcard for the sound but using keyboard and mouse to load & play the tracks.

I have 2 questions

First what I would like to know is can you have both programs mapped to the Kontrol at the same time so that the Kontrol S4 works both or is it just one or the other?

and secondly

I have downloaded the midi mapper for Traktor from the "add ons" section of this website, there are 3 files to click on one for windows the second for mac and the third an instructions file. First I have downloaded the windows file which gives me a pink tied up basket icon "install_traktor_Kontrol_S4.exe" on my desktop when I click on that all it tells me is "installation successful" in a pop up. Then I have clicked on the instructions which is what seems code for the midi mappings which I am thinking has to be copied and pasted somewhere but I haven't the foggiest idea where to put them?


Sorry if there is a walk through on how to do this somewhere already and I've missed it but can anyone clear my confusion?


thanks in advance for any help


Lee
 
Posted Tue 26 Jun 12 @ 6:09 am
1) You CAN'T use Kontrol S4 with both programs at the SAME time. It's one or another as you guessed. However both programs can be configured to work with the controller on the same computer. The software that will establish a communication with the controller first will forbid the other program to work with it as long as it's running.
2) The instructions is just a file that tells you what button performs which actions. You don't have to copy it somewhere or do anything with it. From your description you must have installed Kontrol S4 successfully already. Just start VDJ without Traktor running and see if it picks up the controller.
If it does then you should be ready to go!
 
Thanks PhantomDeejay for the reply :)

Yes as I thought its one or the other. I guess its going to be easiest to use virtual Dj on gigs that want karaoke as part of the night and Traktor on the others (who knows I may become as fond of VDJ as I am of Traktor.

If I start up VDJ without traktor running it picks the Kontrol S4 up as a sound card but not as a midi controller (unless I'm doing something wrong?) I would have thought I would have had to load some sort of .tks file or some other midi rules to get the 2 to sing from the same hymn sheet?

There is definitely a download file for the Kontrol S4 here at this website which can be downloaded here :-

http://www.virtualdj.com/addons/14443/Traktor_Kontrol_S4.html

and this is what I'm struggling to get my head around? it says I have to "start the Kontrol S4 in midi mode?" which I just can't figure out how to do?

Edit to add: I have just figured out how to put the S4 into midi mode "Shift & Browse" but I still can't get Virtual DJ to communicate with the controller


Lee
 
 
Further to add

I have now found the .ncks4 file, set my kontrol S4 to open in midi mode but now when I load in the .ncks4 file to the Controller Editor the controller editor crashes and stops working??

Sheesh this is frustrating :(


Lee
 
Not that many people who use VDJ bought the S4, but hopefully someone will come along that can help.

Keith
 
Thanks Keith

I kinda figured that I would be in a very small minority.

Its not the way I want to go but I guess if I cant get this thing to work I'll just have to buy another controller and use that when I have a karaoke gig (which probably will be only half a dozen or so a year?)


Lee
 
I too have an s4 but can't figure out how to get vdj to recognize it either
 
I use my S4 with VDJ, the files that allow it control VDJ Pro7 were purchased from an external developer - [External link removed]

I am not going to get into the morals of someone selling their work, I am only supplying a link, what you decide to do is up to you. As someone that has bought an S4 and wants to use it with VDJ Pro7, I, personally, don't have a problem with rewarding someone for putting the effort and work in.

I have since modified the mapping as supplied, just to bring it more into line with TP2+ operation.

Simon
 
Thanks Simon

I have followed the link you provided and donated and downloaded the files to get VDJ working with my S4

However, I am experiencing the exact same problem with the VDJ.ncks4 file as I am with the Traktor Kontrol S4.ncks4 file that I downloaded from here

Whenever I try to load these files into the Native Instruments Controller Editor as a new template the Controller Editor crashes and stops working!

I have emailed djrethink to see if they can sort out this problem as it's driving me crazy!!


If they sort it I will post the solution


Lee
 
External links to commercial websites selling plugins are not permitted on the VirtualDJ forums (Except with prior consent from VirtualDJ staff.)

Unfortunately the author of this mapper chooses to sell it rather than share it for free with the community via our download pages.

NOTE: DO NOT post this link again or edit your post to put it back again.

Please see the forum rules: http://www.virtualdj.com/wiki/Forum%20Rules.html

A FREE mapper for the S4 created by another user can be downloaded from: http://www.virtualdj.com/addons/controllers.html?category=best&order=default&search=kontrol+s4
 
I'm in the same situation as you in that i use Traktor for my musical sets and if doing Karaoke use VDJ.

No need to try and run both at the same time.
 
take you all selling pluging some where else get two laptops good!
 
I love how VDJ will come on to remove an external link, but won't come on to help out with a question. So glad I bought this haha
 
mattk1984 wrote :
I love how VDJ will come on to remove an external link, but won't come on to help out with a question. So glad I bought this haha


And what's YOUR question?

I can't see any question of yours on this thread...
 
hi, need help for my traktor s4 mk2 to run on virtual dj, any updates? i already downloaded and installed the installer provided by dj techie but still the controler editor could not detect the virtual dj. please advice thanks..
 
Shift+Browse put the S4 in midi mode. Then download the mapper from the link VDJ gave you. Google is your friend.
 
if your having trouble getting your S4 to work, try start with my original mapper for it.

http://www.virtualdj.com/addons/14443/Traktor_Kontrol_S4.html

that page has documentation on how to get the S4 to work, i created the DJ Techie Custom mapper to share some of my personal modifications with people who have tried my original mapper and are after something a bit different.

let me know if you have any questions and i will do what i can to help.
 
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In traktor set one of you deck many C or D to live input use the internal sound card of you computer as sound card in VDJ connect a mini jack to RCA cable between the computer headphone jack into the RCA lines of the S4. Now you can use VDJ for karaoke rooted through Traktor.

But you would still need to use mouse and keyboard for VDJ
 
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