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I worked with VDJ for a few months trying to get it to handle tempo, pitch and memory. Did get some help on the first two but found the knobs unreliable and when I got far enough to transfer these functions to the keyboard found them to be inconsistent, at least unstable. At times the keys wouldn't work and when they did work they would not reset for the subsequent tunes's configuration.

For the third item of bringing up a songs custom configuration on each subsequent use, I can't get a comment from VDJ.

I ran all of this by the members of a Winamp Forum and they were able to direct me on how to achieve all of this with their player.

Maybe i am missing something here but you know it was free. I keep thinking that I paid $300 for a system that won't work and now I have been given another that works, gratis.

As i said, maybe I am missing something, so your thoughts on this are welcome.
 
Posted Sat 15 Aug 09 @ 1:50 am
Wow... well .. if youre not a Dj ... why did you buy a Dj software...? Windows media player can do the same as Winamp & is included on the OS ... LOL... really... I dont understand why did you buy a soft like VDJ if all you need was a mp3 playlist player...

Best regards.
 
I am a DJ and KJ. Been out there since 1952. Tried all the innovations through the years. Now trying software and VDJ doesn't work for me.

If a system doesn't work, it doesn't matter what you are or what you do with it, it still doesn't work.

I need exact tempo control for professional dancers and exact pitch cotrol for karaoke contests.

So i bought it to perform these tasks. Windows Media Player will not do this. VDj won't do it, but Winamp will.

Why knock Winamp if it can perform functions more flawlessly than another system?
 
I've no problems with the precision or control of pitch and tempo?

Your third option isn't presently available but could easily be implemented as a plugin. I'll be honest though; as a DJ I wouldn't really use the feature since every time I play a song it will be under different circumstances.

There is a trial version available; perhaps you should have tried this before splashing $300. I'm afraid Winamp doesn't cut it for me as a DJ solution though.
 
SBDJ wrote :
I've no problems with the precision or control of pitch and tempo? Maybe my computer has some shortcomings as far as VDJ is concerned but again the Winamp Software and Plugin worked flawlessly on my equipment.

Your third option isn't presently available but could easily be implemented as a plugin. I'll be honest though; as a DJ I wouldn't really use the feature since every time I play a song it will be under different circumstances. Everytime I play a song for ballroom dancers it must be the same tempo and everytime I sing with a track it must be in the same key. When I play for general dancing, I need a reset. At times on my equipment VDJ actually would stick in the last configured setting. Yes a lot of things may be easy but they don't get done or offered or answered.

There is a trial version available; perhaps you should have tried this before splashing $300. I'm afraid Winamp doesn't cut it for me as a DJ solution though.
I tried the trial version and liked the old-school turntable and did the reading and assumed for that amount of money it could satisfy what I could do with basic hardware. I'll turn that around on you and say VDJ doesn't cut it for me. Actually I wonder if the trial system would even perform these tasks had I thought of it at the time. I do remember the knobs were sluggish and I was told that would improve with the "splash".

Still like the turntable skin and could use it if i don't touch any controls.
 
what is your system , give us some details

how much ram and what operating system would help

under config click options there are many parameters there and some reset ........
 
DanceHost wrote :
Everytime I play a song for ballroom dancers it must be the same tempo and everytime I sing with a track it must be in the same key. When I play for general dancing, I need a reset. At times on my equipment VDJ actually would stick in the last configured setting. Yes a lot of things may be easy but they don't get done or offered or answered.


We do try around here; admittedly we are mostly just users here and have no more resource than you apart from experience with the software.

DanceHost wrote :
I tried the trial version and liked the old-school turntable and did the reading and assumed for that amount of money it could satisfy what I could do with basic hardware. I'll turn that around on you and say VDJ doesn't cut it for me. Actually I wonder if the trial system would even perform these tasks had I thought of it at the time. I do remember the knobs were sluggish and I was told that would improve with the "splash".


Assumptions are a dangerous thing ;) Anyway, I get instant responsiveness - it's probably down to system configuration and the like. I'm sorry that VDJ doesn't cut it for you - but if you're using basic hardware that could well be the issue. VDJ really performs best with decent audio hardware. It wouldn't be much of a DJ/VJ software package if you couldn't use any controls ;)

If you really do want us to help, go for it. If you're happy with winamp then stick with that - I've always said use what works for you :)
 
Winamp has some plug-ins that actually make it a very nice karaoke player and if you do not need to precisely cue your music to a specific spot (and have it remembered each time you load that somg), if you don't need multiple cue points, hot cue jumps, sync for beat matching (i.e if you old school beat match by adjusting the tempo slider only) or you don't beat match at all (which by the way more people who sell themselves as wedding Djs DON'T beat match then do). If you don't scratch or have use of any video transitions or effects, if you don't need the text and titling plug-ins, if you have no need to show video clips or slide shows while non video music is playing then yes winamp is a very nice player.

In reality probably 40-50% of all who call themselves Djs and do karaoke, weddings, store openings, card dealer lot promotions, bar yard BBQ's, neighborhood bars and lounges have no need for a program like VDJ, Winamp and a couple of plug-ins work just perfect for their situation. Not every Dj is a "turntablist" nor does the definition of a Dj include turntablism in it .....a professional Dj is one who is paid to entertain through the playing of recorded music to a client base over a PA sytem........period, no more no less. Anything beyond this is simply your choice or preference to entertain your specific crowd.

The fact of the matter is there are far more Djs who keep the crowd happy with their personality and playing the right music in the right order and taking care of requests then there are "hot" nightclub Djs with their perfect beatmatching skillz. You have to remember for every one Friday and Saturday club night their are 100 neighborhood bar karaoke/dj gigs, 100 corporate gigs and 1000 weddings on that same Friday and Saturday night....and only a small percentage of them are beat matching and turntabling.

VDJ rocks for what we do, Winamp rocks for what they do. I like Chocolate Chop Cookie Dough ice cream....but obviously somebody likes pineapple mango because they sell that too!
 
DanceHost wrote :
I am a DJ and KJ. Been out there since 1952.



OMG !!! Ok ... now i understand... Youre rigth... keep using winamp...
You have the early 70s Dj Concept...

P.D.

Just a Simple question ??

What do you like the most.. Playstation 3, Xbox 360, or a Wii ?... I hope your answer will be one of those and not .. none of them...

Best regards.

;-)
 
This a general discussion forum, please be polite and speak with respect;

I answered some of your tickets in support for the record.

For the sake of clarification, softwares each have their strengths, weaknesses and features also and cater to the different types of djs there are and users. In our case I think we offer the most support in as many areas as possible. Development's focus is primary dj use with secondary support for kj files and other formats and usage.

As was stated ,this software is by design offering as many support options as possible opening doors for those who had nothing BUT a keyboard to map as a controller.

In your specific case, you are specializing in things other than mixing as a dj.

I have run this software between video shows, mixed in karaoke and run from karaoke shows beatmixed into dances.

Overall, as a performer, this software offers me more than even Winamp for obvious reasons as they are limited in ways VDJ is not.

There may be ways to configure this if you spend he time and learn the script language needed to identify specific functions and controls.
If you look in the wiki, you will find the foundation you need to understand how to talk vdj and get more than you ever could for controls and led lights etc...
If you have ever used VDJ to power up a fashion or talent show, you know it goes well beyond djing.
Guys, we have lots of diversification in this forum, different strokes and careers tht some take quite seriously although you may not see it that way.
Please be kind.

Rick
 
chucknorrisyouwimps wrote :
what is your system , give us some details

how much ram and what operating system would help

under config click options there are many parameters there and some reset ........


Have VDJ on two computers HP Windows Vista Home Premium 6GB and A Toshiba Laptop XP 3GB.

VDj Version 6.
 
- but if you're using basic hardware that could well be the issue. VDJ really performs best with decent audio hardware. It wouldn't be much of a DJ/VJ software

SB the hardware reference was a comparison to your software. I am using only computers.

If you want to go for it. The applications I am finding unstable are gain, pitch(key) and tempo(pitch) keyboard controls.

Nos. 4 and 5 for Gain. Nos. 6 and 7 for pitch(key) and nos. 8 and 9 for tempo(pitch).

Am I the only one using this or having trouble with it?

Of course even you admit your software does not have a memory function for these parameters. As I said I need that too. Also there must be an unlocking for the next file to play in its normal manner.

Can you pm me to keep me apprised of your work in these areas?

Thanks
 
VDJ rocks for what we do, Winamp rocks for what they do. I like Chocolate Chop Cookie Dough ice cream....but obviously somebody likes pineapple mango because they sell that too!

dj-e-lectric thanks for your input but I am not asking for a comparison here. I am asking why a system I paid $300 for can't duplicate another system which is free, granted if I would use it professionally there must be some charge.

Why not have your system do basic dj/kj functions as others do. You alluded to what it takes to please an audience and that is all i am trying to do, please my audience with your software and it is not working or complete enough.
 
Dj since 1994

djfrochcr noticed you said above you have been out there since 1994. Why don't you sit back and take another sip from your drink and reflect on your 15 years experience, read your profile and revel in your accomplishments and knowledge and maybe apply for a comedians job on the Conan O'Brien Show, since you are contributing nothing to this thread.
 
I answered some of your tickets in support for the record.

Rick as you said above you did help. Initially and often the keyboard technique in as far as it goes does work but it is not dependable and often freezes and/or won't bring the system back to normal.

You can say how great your system is but it seems to me if it were more stable in areas such as I need and performed even more functions, you would have less complaints and possibly sell more units maybe even at a higher price.

You can sell a car that only works in reverse and praise it as unique and doing more in reverse than any other make. You could gloat that it is superior to all but pretty soon somebody is going to desire to go forward.

To me, an appreciation of the forest is superior to praising a few trees.
 
DanceHost wrote :


dj-e-lectric thanks for your input but I am not asking for a comparison here. I am asking why a system I paid $300 for can't duplicate another system which is free, granted if I would use it professionally there must be some charge.

Why not have your system do basic dj/kj functions as others do. You alluded to what it takes to please an audience and that is all i am trying to do, please my audience with your software and it is not working or complete enough.


It is not that the software is not complete enough (no software ever is). They are designed for two different applications...why does my $14,000 Hyundai corner, break and get better gas milage than a ford f150 that costs $30,000? For the same reason I can't carry 4x8 panels and drive over curbs......because they are designed for different operations and the price has no bearing one one or the other.

I personally don't know what you mean when you say the gain, the pitch and the tempo are not stable because on my system they are rock solid. Have you tried in the setup to set "Auto Pitch Match" to off, "Auto Gain" to off, and "Pitch Reset" to On Load and make sure you "Auto Key" is of. This may help as it will reset everything everytime you load a new song or video. As far as "memories" for each of the settings since you did not elaborate on how you wanted the memories to work I am assuming you want them to be tied to each singer as Swift Elite Hoster will do....VDJ does not have that feature as this is a Dj program primarily and that is a very specific to karaoke feature....maybe you can have someone write a plug-in for you for that feature.

As far as features that don't exist, instead of complaining it is not in the program (yet) maybe a suggestion or request would have been a better way to present the feature....most of us on this board love this program (just as a car enthusiest loves their Mustang...sometimes blindly) so ruffling feathers from the get go probably was not the best way to snuggle up to getting answers.
 
dj-e-lectric wrote :
DanceHost wrote :


dj-e-lectric thanks for your input but I am not asking for a comparison here. I am asking why a system I paid $300 for can't duplicate another system which is free, granted if I would use it professionally there must be some charge.

Why not have your system do basic dj/kj functions as others do. You alluded to what it takes to please an audience and that is all i am trying to do, please my audience with your software and it is not working or complete enough.


It is not that the software is not complete enough (no software ever is). They are designed for two different applications...why does my $14,000 Hyundai corner, break and get better gas milage than a ford f150 that costs $30,000? For the same reason I can't carry 4x8 panels and drive over curbs......because they are designed for different operations and the price has no bearing one one or the other.

Are they really designed for two different applications or are you double-talking. Isn't it maybe VDJ just hasn't got these controls yet, granted they no doubt can do other unique things.

I personally don't know what you mean when you say the gain, the pitch and the tempo are not stable because on my system they are rock solid. Have you tried in the setup to set "Auto Pitch Match" to off, "Auto Gain" to off, and "Pitch Reset" to On Load and make sure you "Auto Key" is of. This may help as it will reset everything everytime you load a new song or video.

If you don't know what I mean, how can you direct me? Hoping you did understand, I tried your ideas and they didn't help. Again I am trying to perform these functions with keyboard mapping and it is not working on either computer. Have you ever tried this? Are you using Version 6 language in your suggestions? By Auto Key do you mean Auto Cue?

As far as "memories" for each of the settings since you did not elaborate on how you wanted the memories to work I am assuming you want them to be tied to each singer as Swift Elite Hoster will do....VDJ does not have that feature as this is a Dj program primarily and that is a very specific to karaoke feature....maybe you can have someone write a plug-in for you for that feature.

Again are you trying to say VDJ is not a Karaooke Program also? I Wished for Parameter Memory for each file sometime ago but it seems to just be dormant. Would be nice to at least get a response on a suggestion. Excuses and denial and praise of the present won't get it. Either you don't care or the system is skewed in a certain direction but if I thiought theses features were a stepchilld, I would never have taken the plunge.

As far as features that don't exist, instead of complaining it is not in the program (yet) maybe a suggestion or request would have been a better way to present the feature....most of us on this board love this program (just as a car enthusiest loves their Mustang...sometimes blindly) so ruffling feathers from the get go probably was not the best way to snuggle up to getting answers.


If you had researched my posts, you would see that I have made suggestions and had help from SB, Rick and CS and it brought me this far. Here i am just sharing my experience with VDJ and Winamp to this point, not trying to ruffle anything.
 
Ok ... whatever you say Old man (LOL)... you may have like 9 decades more than me... but at least... Learn how to make a "quote tag" in a forum grandpa...

Please let me know ..exactly what is your contribution with this post.

LOL !
 
djfrochocr wrote :
DanceHost wrote :
Dj since 1994

djfrochcr noticed you said above you have been out there since 1994. Why don't you sit back and take another sip from your drink and reflect on your 15 years experience, read your profile and revel in your accomplishments and knowledge and maybe apply for a comedians job on the Conan O'Brien Show, since you are contributing nothing to this thread.


Ok ... whatever you say Old man (LOL)... you may have like 9 decades more than me... but at least... Learn how to make a "quote tag" in a forum grandpa...

Please let me know ..exactly what is your contribution with this post.

LOL !


Take another sip. You are almost there.
 
DanceHost wrote :

not trying to ruffle anything.


Are you sure about that ?

P.D.

By the way .. you didn't answer What do you like the most.. Playstation 3, Xbox 360, or a Wii ?

Best regards.

;-)
 
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