djfrochocr wrote :
Are you sure about that ?
P.D.
By the way .. you didn't answer What do you like the most.. Playstation 3, Xbox 360, or a Wii ?
Best regards.
;-)
DanceHost wrote :
not trying to ruffle anything.
not trying to ruffle anything.
Are you sure about that ?
P.D.
By the way .. you didn't answer What do you like the most.. Playstation 3, Xbox 360, or a Wii ?
Best regards.
;-)
I don't have time for games. Just into reality. Second thought on the ruffling, I wouldn't mind some moderator help here in ruffling you out.
Posted Sun 16 Aug 09 @ 12:35 am
It has to be user error or a misconfiguration of some sort. Why is it that so many of us have no troubles and a few do? The software is all downloaded from the same place and is identical. It is usually an error on the part of the user. WinAmp is NOT a DJ tool. I know, because I have it and have used it for many years. I know about the plug-ins and yes, they are cool for a 15 year old or and even an older person trying to throw a party for friends, but professionally!? No way.
Many of us here use VDJ for professional venues and if we had massive failures with the software it could be a reputation wrecker if not a career wrecker. We all trust it enough to get us through each night on our gigs, so with that I must reiterate... you are likely the blame for your own problems. It may not be your fault but as a cop would tell you when you say you didn't know you were driving 55 in a 35 zone, ignorance is no excuse. It doesn't matter that you missed that sign back there, the fact remains, it was there. My point? You bought a software that out of hundreds of thousands of users possibly only 1-5% are having issues with it, why? Because their computer isn't powerful enough, settings are all FUBAR or there are far too many programs running on it, not to mention possible spyware/malware and viruses. You are not using some kiddy-ware program. This is a sophisticated program that took years and thousands of man-hours to perfect. As mentioned earlier, no software is perfect but VDJ is as close as it can get!
What I mean is, if you don't understand the finer details of how something works, you need to have patience and work with it. Today for example, I was getting hopping mad because I kept having problems with a video editing software. I researched the issue and tried everything until I couldn't see straight, then in my frustration I tried another program, redid my entire project and went to finalize it. When it completed it came out beautifully except one thing...there was no sound!!! Everything I went through for the past three days was down the toilet!! I was freakin' pissed!!! I damn-near slugged my computer! I played around for a couple of hours more, research the net, tried the video in different players and nothing...Nada...Zilch!!
I was ready to scrap the whole project, then after I calmed down a bit I decided just for the hell of it to run VDJ and play it through my DJ system. I was not surprised to find that there was still no sound. That's when I decided to do my normal routine whenever I get sound issues after setting up for a gig. Low and behold, God said...LET THERE BE SOUND!!! My computer's settings got all FUBARRED when I changed around my audio/video gear while making this video I was doing!
My point here, if you don't really know what your doing, even after trying everything, try something else or leave it alone. The answer is always there, you just have to know where to look for it and if not, then you shouldn't be messing with it.
Chances are it's your fault!!
DJ RuDe
(Not as old as you, but no spring chicken! lol, I'm not saying this in a negative way, I mean it in the most polite sense.)
Many of us here use VDJ for professional venues and if we had massive failures with the software it could be a reputation wrecker if not a career wrecker. We all trust it enough to get us through each night on our gigs, so with that I must reiterate... you are likely the blame for your own problems. It may not be your fault but as a cop would tell you when you say you didn't know you were driving 55 in a 35 zone, ignorance is no excuse. It doesn't matter that you missed that sign back there, the fact remains, it was there. My point? You bought a software that out of hundreds of thousands of users possibly only 1-5% are having issues with it, why? Because their computer isn't powerful enough, settings are all FUBAR or there are far too many programs running on it, not to mention possible spyware/malware and viruses. You are not using some kiddy-ware program. This is a sophisticated program that took years and thousands of man-hours to perfect. As mentioned earlier, no software is perfect but VDJ is as close as it can get!
What I mean is, if you don't understand the finer details of how something works, you need to have patience and work with it. Today for example, I was getting hopping mad because I kept having problems with a video editing software. I researched the issue and tried everything until I couldn't see straight, then in my frustration I tried another program, redid my entire project and went to finalize it. When it completed it came out beautifully except one thing...there was no sound!!! Everything I went through for the past three days was down the toilet!! I was freakin' pissed!!! I damn-near slugged my computer! I played around for a couple of hours more, research the net, tried the video in different players and nothing...Nada...Zilch!!
I was ready to scrap the whole project, then after I calmed down a bit I decided just for the hell of it to run VDJ and play it through my DJ system. I was not surprised to find that there was still no sound. That's when I decided to do my normal routine whenever I get sound issues after setting up for a gig. Low and behold, God said...LET THERE BE SOUND!!! My computer's settings got all FUBARRED when I changed around my audio/video gear while making this video I was doing!
My point here, if you don't really know what your doing, even after trying everything, try something else or leave it alone. The answer is always there, you just have to know where to look for it and if not, then you shouldn't be messing with it.
Chances are it's your fault!!
DJ RuDe
(Not as old as you, but no spring chicken! lol, I'm not saying this in a negative way, I mean it in the most polite sense.)
Posted Sun 16 Aug 09 @ 1:00 am
Thanks for the ideas rudedogg but I have got this far by following the forum masters advice. It is one thing to generalize why a problem is happening but another to walk in my shoes. I want to ask you and fellow members to keyboard map key controllers for Gain, Key and Pitch and periodically use this for a few days or a week and see if it proves consistent and stable for you.
For search and regular play, VDJ works great for me with only a CDG glitch here and there. I just wonder if you and other members have tried what I am trying or just speaking to the overall aspects and quality of VDJ?
On the memory, I think all are agreed it could be put in the to-do jar.
Had some advice above for the resets but that didn't work for me either. Would appreciate you trying that too. Here I am trying to get resets from the AutoMix. Granted parameters will reset on manual loads.
For search and regular play, VDJ works great for me with only a CDG glitch here and there. I just wonder if you and other members have tried what I am trying or just speaking to the overall aspects and quality of VDJ?
On the memory, I think all are agreed it could be put in the to-do jar.
Had some advice above for the resets but that didn't work for me either. Would appreciate you trying that too. Here I am trying to get resets from the AutoMix. Granted parameters will reset on manual loads.
Posted Sun 16 Aug 09 @ 1:27 am
y dosnt some1 create a skin that looks the same as winamp LOL
Posted Sun 16 Aug 09 @ 5:34 am
y dosnt some1 create a skin that looks the same as winamp LOL
Boy that is really professional.
Curious if you have anything to offer on setting flexibility/stability out of AutoMix?
Boy that is really professional.
Curious if you have anything to offer on setting flexibility/stability out of AutoMix?
Posted Sun 16 Aug 09 @ 5:44 am
I'm always happy to help, but just so you know I don't actually work for Atomix - I'm just a user like you who also happens to help moderate the forums :)
When you say those controls are unstable, what exactly do you mean? I find them both accurate and they adjust when I set them and stay where I set them, so if you could elaborate a bit it would be appreciated.
As for the memory function, it could be implementable as an add-on - it would be better builtin though, so might be worth a post on the Wishes & New Features forum for addition to a future version.
When you say those controls are unstable, what exactly do you mean? I find them both accurate and they adjust when I set them and stay where I set them, so if you could elaborate a bit it would be appreciated.
As for the memory function, it could be implementable as an add-on - it would be better builtin though, so might be worth a post on the Wishes & New Features forum for addition to a future version.
Posted Sun 16 Aug 09 @ 10:09 am
SBDJ wrote :
I'm always happy to help, but just so you know I don't actually work for Atomix - I'm just a user like you who also happens to help moderate the forums :) Always appreciate your help.
When you say those controls are unstable, what exactly do you mean? I find them both accurate and they adjust when I set them and stay where I set them, so if you could elaborate a bit it would be appreciated. The controls are accurate when doing file by file loading directly to a player and there reset automatically on the next file, but erratic when activated from Automix. Try keyboard mapping for Key and Pitch and use them with your Automix list. After setting the controls for a file the next file will not reset out of Automix and often the key contol stops working all together when used in Automix.
As for the memory function, it could be implementable as an add-on - it would be better builtin though, so might be worth a post on the Wishes & New Features forum for addition to a future version.
When you say those controls are unstable, what exactly do you mean? I find them both accurate and they adjust when I set them and stay where I set them, so if you could elaborate a bit it would be appreciated. The controls are accurate when doing file by file loading directly to a player and there reset automatically on the next file, but erratic when activated from Automix. Try keyboard mapping for Key and Pitch and use them with your Automix list. After setting the controls for a file the next file will not reset out of Automix and often the key contol stops working all together when used in Automix.
As for the memory function, it could be implementable as an add-on - it would be better builtin though, so might be worth a post on the Wishes & New Features forum for addition to a future version.
I put that in the W&NFF weeks ago and have had no response.
Thanks
Posted Sun 16 Aug 09 @ 4:38 pm
DanceHost wrote :
I put that in the W&NFF weeks ago and have had no response.
Thanks
I put that in the W&NFF weeks ago and have had no response.
Thanks
Things don't move quite that quickly.
Its for ideas for consideration for future releases.
Releases don't happen that frequently.
SBDJ wrote :
When you say those controls are unstable, what exactly do you mean?
When you say those controls are unstable, what exactly do you mean?
Maybe you could answer the question.
Posted Sun 16 Aug 09 @ 4:45 pm
mp3jrick wrote :
Things don't move quite that quickly.
Its for ideas for consideration for future releases.
Releases don't happen that frequently. I would have been happy with some answer.
Maybe you could answer the question.
Rick, I explained the problem above to SB. Can you perform the tasks in Automic?DanceHost wrote :
I put that in the W&NFF weeks ago and have had no response.
Thanks
I put that in the W&NFF weeks ago and have had no response.
Thanks
Things don't move quite that quickly.
Its for ideas for consideration for future releases.
Releases don't happen that frequently. I would have been happy with some answer.
SBDJ wrote :
When you say those controls are unstable, what exactly do you mean?
When you say those controls are unstable, what exactly do you mean?
Maybe you could answer the question.
Posted Sun 16 Aug 09 @ 5:25 pm
I'm sorry if I'm being blind here, but I can't see any explanation as to what you mean by unstable?
Posted Sun 16 Aug 09 @ 5:28 pm
SBDJ wrote :
I'm sorry if I'm being blind here, but I can't see any explanation as to what you mean by unstable?
In Automix I try to set the Key for instance with Keyboard 7 or 8. Often it won't set. Usually when it does it locks up the system or locks in the setting for all subsequent Automix files.
Sometimes it sets and plays in the desired key but never resets for the subsequent file. Hence "unstable".
Posted Sun 16 Aug 09 @ 5:40 pm
DanceHost wrote :
In Automix I try to set the Key for instance with Keyboard 7 or 8. Often it won't set. Usually when it does it locks up the system or locks in the setting for all subsequent Automix files.
Sometimes it sets and plays in the desired key but never resets for the subsequent file. Hence "unstable".
Sometimes it sets and plays in the desired key but never resets for the subsequent file. Hence "unstable".
So thats key; what about the others? Do they exhibit the same behaviour? Do none of them reset? What gain and pitch usually do when you load a new track is dependant on what you have set in the options.
I'll run some tests though as I would have never run into your issue personally - I don't use automix and I rarely use the keyboard. When I do use the keyboard I've never had any problems with it's responsiveness though. I wouldn't be much use for any extended live testing for you - I couldn't use the keyboard for pitch control - it's just not fast or friendly enough. I can't test with gain either since I have autogain enabled and use an external mixer.
Automix could be having some impact on the resets though - depending on what mode of automix you are using, VDJ may attempt to choose the next tracks configuration itself hence no need to reset as such. How about running without using automix - does everything work fine for you then?
Automix at present seems to be more of a playlist mode with some attempted mixing thrown in - you list the tracks it plays them and tries to mix them if suitable. If you require more detailed manual control then you're better off without using it IMHO.
Posted Sun 16 Aug 09 @ 8:12 pm
Also, if I may interject. Autoplay is not intended for long term mixing. It can only handle a few BPMs difference from track to track. Both of my systems Auto Sync is off. Have you tried different Autoplay settings? longer crossfade, remove silence ETC. ETC. ETC? Last, but not least, the CBGs have to be dead on for high quality results.
Posted Sun 16 Aug 09 @ 8:34 pm
DanceHost,sometimes i think you should try again from the top. check your keyboard & mouse to make sure that's not the problem.
make sure your filedate is'nt showing, defrag your hardrive and so on. i think you need to have a little patience with the program
and learn 1 thing at a time and not all at once. i'm sure there is some function this program can provide to enhance your shows.
i been in the biz over 30 years. (since 78 rpm records.) i'm still head and shoulders over the compitition. since i do video now
my calender is full thanks to vdj.
-will-
make sure your filedate is'nt showing, defrag your hardrive and so on. i think you need to have a little patience with the program
and learn 1 thing at a time and not all at once. i'm sure there is some function this program can provide to enhance your shows.
i been in the biz over 30 years. (since 78 rpm records.) i'm still head and shoulders over the compitition. since i do video now
my calender is full thanks to vdj.
-will-
Posted Sun 16 Aug 09 @ 8:42 pm
if you are using a bluetooth or wirless keybord try not having ur moblie phone or wireless internet on at the same time
that mucks me up and the keys dont always respond.
just an idea dont no wat u use
that mucks me up and the keys dont always respond.
just an idea dont no wat u use
Posted Sun 16 Aug 09 @ 9:57 pm
SBDJ wrote :
So thats key; what about the others? Pitch is erratic and also Gain when used from the keyboard. Forgot to mention, sometimes the key commands won't work at all. Again on an HP Vista Desktop 6GG and a Toshiba Laptop 3GB.
Do they exhibit the same behaviour? Do none of them reset? What gain and pitch usually do when you load a new track is dependant on what you have set in the options. what about Key. For what I need, what are the correct option settings?
I'll run some tests though as I would have never run into your issue personally - I don't use automix and I rarely use the keyboard. When I do use the keyboard I've never had any problems with it's responsiveness though. I wouldn't be much use for any extended live testing for you - I couldn't use the keyboard for pitch control - it's just not fast or friendly enough. The touch of a key is not fast enough?
I can't test with gain either since I have autogain enabled and use an external mixer.
Automix could be having some impact on the resets though - depending on what mode of automix you are using, VDJ may attempt to choose the next tracks configuration itself hence no need to reset as such. How about running without using automix - does everything work fine for you then? Will test everything to be sure and get back on this.
Automix at present seems to be more of a playlist mode with some attempted mixing thrown in - you list the tracks it plays them and tries to mix them if suitable. If you require more detailed manual control then you're better off without using it IMHO.
If that is the case, that surely takes the fun out of it. Seems almost like a case for using Windows Media Player.DanceHost wrote :
In Automix I try to set the Key for instance with Keyboard 7 or 8. Often it won't set. Usually when it does it locks up the system or locks in the setting for all subsequent Automix files.
Sometimes it sets and plays in the desired key but never resets for the subsequent file. Hence "unstable".
Sometimes it sets and plays in the desired key but never resets for the subsequent file. Hence "unstable".
So thats key; what about the others? Pitch is erratic and also Gain when used from the keyboard. Forgot to mention, sometimes the key commands won't work at all. Again on an HP Vista Desktop 6GG and a Toshiba Laptop 3GB.
Do they exhibit the same behaviour? Do none of them reset? What gain and pitch usually do when you load a new track is dependant on what you have set in the options. what about Key. For what I need, what are the correct option settings?
I'll run some tests though as I would have never run into your issue personally - I don't use automix and I rarely use the keyboard. When I do use the keyboard I've never had any problems with it's responsiveness though. I wouldn't be much use for any extended live testing for you - I couldn't use the keyboard for pitch control - it's just not fast or friendly enough. The touch of a key is not fast enough?
I can't test with gain either since I have autogain enabled and use an external mixer.
Automix could be having some impact on the resets though - depending on what mode of automix you are using, VDJ may attempt to choose the next tracks configuration itself hence no need to reset as such. How about running without using automix - does everything work fine for you then? Will test everything to be sure and get back on this.
Automix at present seems to be more of a playlist mode with some attempted mixing thrown in - you list the tracks it plays them and tries to mix them if suitable. If you require more detailed manual control then you're better off without using it IMHO.
Posted Mon 17 Aug 09 @ 12:43 am
dregsta-ink wrote :
if you are using a bluetooth or wirless keybord try not having ur moblie phone or wireless internet on at the same time
that mucks me up and the keys dont always respond.
just an idea dont no wat u use
that mucks me up and the keys dont always respond.
just an idea dont no wat u use
Using basic computers, no bluetooth or wireless keyboard. No wireless internet.
Do you mean an independent cell phone for mobile phone?
Can you control changes to Key, Pitch and Gain in Automix?
Thanks
Posted Mon 17 Aug 09 @ 12:47 am
steelwill wrote :
DanceHost,sometimes i think you should try again from the top. check your keyboard & mouse to make sure that's not the problem.
make sure your filedate is'nt showing, defrag your hardrive and so on. i think you need to have a little patience with the program
and learn 1 thing at a time and not all at once. i'm sure there is some function this program can provide to enhance your shows.
i been in the biz over 30 years. (since 78 rpm records.) i'm still head and shoulders over the compitition. since i do video now
my calender is full thanks to vdj.
-will-
make sure your filedate is'nt showing, defrag your hardrive and so on. i think you need to have a little patience with the program
and learn 1 thing at a time and not all at once. i'm sure there is some function this program can provide to enhance your shows.
i been in the biz over 30 years. (since 78 rpm records.) i'm still head and shoulders over the compitition. since i do video now
my calender is full thanks to vdj.
-will-
All I need are a few basic controls. How long should a learning curve take for this?
What is the problem with file date showing? What other dos and dont's should I be aware of. One of the members said what I was asking for was 70's standard procedure.
Can you personally keyboard control Key, Pitch and Gain in Automix and have the next file to automatically reset?
Thanks
Posted Mon 17 Aug 09 @ 12:54 am
TearEmUp wrote :
Also, if I may interject. Autoplay is not intended for long term mixing. It can only handle a few BPMs difference from track to track. Both of my systems Auto Sync is off. Have you tried different Autoplay settings? longer crossfade, remove silence ETC. ETC. ETC? Last, but not least, the CBGs have to be dead on for high quality results.
With your settings, can you keyboard control Key, Pitch and Gain in Automix and have the next file to set properly?
How about listing the settings I need as you see them?
Thanks
Posted Mon 17 Aug 09 @ 12:58 am
Ur stuck in a rutt arnt you buddy
Posted Mon 17 Aug 09 @ 1:09 am