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Hi Guys,

I'm currently using the Maya44 souncard. I've got 1210's and TCV Gen 3.

I'm thinking about upgrading my soundcard, as although the Maya44 works fine, i've read that sound quality could be better.

I'm considering 2 options.
1) Buying Vivrtual Vinyl package (mainly for the soundcard)

or

2) Serato - becasue i get the sound card aswell as the software - you can enever have too many software packages.


So the question is: Is the VV soundcard much better than the Serato box with VDJ?

I've tried looking for a comparison on the forums but haven't found one.
Thanks
 
Posted Thu 20 Dec 07 @ 4:43 am
the beauty IMO of vdj is that you can choose your own soundcard. im not impressed by serato's. it's quite latent so you really need to practice a long time and get used to 128-256ms latency. then when you go back to scratching on real TTs, you're all messed up again.

get an emu 1616m and experience 2ms latency on vdj. it has digidesign DACs and extremely low latency. i highly recommend it. just check first if your laptop has cardbus or expresscard because emu doesnt have an expresscard version (yet).

if you want even better, check the RME Hammerfall series... or Motu Ultralight.
 
128-256ms latency... what setting have you been using. You can get 2ms with vdj and ssl box.
 
Ian Knowles wrote :
128-256ms latency... what setting have you been using. You can get 2ms with vdj and ssl box.



That's right PAZ75. I can attest to it. There's nothing latent about the SL1.

@Tiger1, you want an honest opinion, get the ScratchLive package. That way, you get the best of both worlds and you won't be tied up to one software.
 
hmm, maybe its the serato software then. all i know is that turntablism is hard work and even harder still on ssl live. never tried the ssl box with vdj, but i do know what good hardware on vdj is like, and it's a scream :-)
 
The audiio interface that comes with torq is not bad either. Also you can very easily switch to normal wax or CD's and back to VDJ
 
I was leaning towards the serato option - purely because I end up with 2 great packages (VDJ and Serato). Just wanted to make sure that SSL box is no worse the maya44 i currently use with VDJ.

I've never used serato so am planning to go to a dj store in London tomorrow to have a quick go.

I'll have a look at the torq option too.

Thanks all for your input.

 
Who buys torque? There're only two leading products. VirtualDJ & ScratchLIVE. (Off course this is only my Opinion.)
 
one important note to consider the VVbox has 3 stereo outs, this is important to guys who like to use samples and assign them to a 3rd mixer channel.
 
Mantahoe wrote :
Who buys torque? There're only two leading products. VirtualDJ & ScratchLIVE. (Off course this is only my Opinion.)


Hey the sound card is excellent, and the way it's setup you can use it as a mini mixer. M-Audio makes great pro level hardware.
 
sorry m8, m-audio is not pro. RME, Motu, Emu, Apogee & Digidesign are pro.
 
I love VDJ (took some time though) however I would get Serato for 2 reasons.

1.) It seems to be the club standard and if you ever move to doing clubs at least your are familiar with everything already and all you have to do is bring your laptop or ipod and just plug in.

2.) The Serato sound card works with VDJ and if you decide to go the club route you can still plug into their Serato box with your VDJ software.

For those two reasons alone you cant go wrong. But i'll give you a 3rd one.

3.) If you ever want to do turntablism Serato seems to keep up a little better than VDJ with quicker cuts.
 
You can plug Numark VV/VDJ into the Serato soundcard at a club even if you have the Numark box at home ;) thats the reason for even supporting the Serato card. Make life easier for all...

What card to get dont really matter much in this case.. Some like their stuff all branded equally and sexy from Numark, some build their own setup by choosing parts themselves.

One advantage the Numark card got though, is 3 outputs, as said. Where one can route samples and such to the 3rd channel of mixer.

So its all up your own choice really, what you want ;)

 
There once was a time when American cars were the only thing to own.
Those decisions were driven by pride and peer pressure.
Then people smartened up and realized how foolish they had been....think about it
 
or u can buy the Native Instruments AUDIO 8 DJ

i have torq it sucks 11 ms that sound card sucks

i have the rme rpm it comes in at 1 ms :)

 
ps if u have the cash go with rme Multiface II or the rpm
and the rme The Cardbus Interface u will not be sry the best sound card out there that and my rme rpm

i have that with a PCI Express interface HDSPe System (thats coming in in a few days )
 
Between the numark card an serato, which card gives better performance and lower latencies.
 
I ended up going the Serato route. So now have VDJ and serato. I had a quick play about on serato - although I love TCV gen 3 with VDJ - Serato does seem more responsive.

Not had a long play about with virtual DJ and the Searto box yet - aprat from a quick session today. It works - but not had tme to compare the serato +VDJ option vs. Maya 44 + VDJ option.

Will report back once i've had a go.

I already miss the auto-beat match that VDJ has and serato doesn't.

Happy NY all!

 
You seem to be an unbiased chap - give us a review/comparison after you played with serato some more.
 
Yes please do tiger. And do not hide anything. List advantages and disadvantages.
 
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