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The combo price is 725 CAD on the link above.....

The SCS.1 skin just looks a killer...... ;)

I wish to have a schratch panel too, (replacing the mixer with one push of a button like Sweet Scratch X4 skin), and if the skin could be (easyly) exteded to 2 or 3 (touch) monitors as well... in (3X) 1280X1024 res.....
And someone (synthetic...) should give "turbo" buttons beside the pitch range button to have the possibility to 'shift pich'
-8% to +8%
+8% to +24%
+24% to +40% (equals with the 33 RPM record played on the 45 RPM -+8%... what I use to do sometimes)....

and the same for the +-10%, +-25% .... ect. ranges...... programmed smart, so it always change for the range you are using)

In this case you get the same pitch slider resolution and the 'wider range' also.....

@Cstoll, I'm sorry to put words you haven't said.... You are right.... an offer is not a promise.
I get my SCS.1 system after I trade it with my Vestax PMC-37.... as a first step to move from analog to digital, and a few weeks ago I heard about VDJ supports natively my sytem.... so I gave a try.... (I never could buy SCS.1 for 1000+USD's)

You can be shure that I will be a registerd user, since I don't like to have stolen products..... and now I see this program is capable of what I want from it.... and even more... (graet community, fast updates, pretty cool developers ect...)
The problem were for me, I heard a loooong time ago from VDJ and since than it never became as 'famous' as the other programs (in much shorter time).... so I was suspicious....

Just wailt a bit till I collect enough cash to go PRO ..... ;) (first I must get another SCS.1D, till it's price is so low...)
 
If that's a typo what's the price for the dual setup?? That Sweet Scratch is my baby how'd you get a copy of it??

Huey
 
EO4593 wrote :
You can find the cheepest prices for SCS.1 system here.....

http://www.moogaudio.com/dj-gear-dj-controller-c-54_98.html

The dual deck combo's price is misprinted.... (if you do the math, it is easily recognisable)


Clearly that whole Stanton section is WAY off price wise ... no way the SCS.3 System Combo costs more than the SCS.1 System.

I would advise anyone thinking of purchasing there to call them as you may not get what you are actually buying.

Better to search Google Shopping for more accurate pricing information ...

https://www.google.com/search?q=Stanton+SCS.1&pbx=1&oq=Stanton+SCS.1#q=Stanton+SCS.1&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=shop&fp=32be70c536a48591


And @Huey -- do you really need to ask that question?? You already know how :)
 
Lmao!!
 
I've seen this prices even in holland..

www.feedback.nl ... and they have SCS.1m for 199 EUR (SCS.3 parts for 99 EUR) and they just ran out of SCS.1d at the same price. a few weeks ago they had that too, so it is not looking impossible

Oh, and I've seen a video here in this thread from you .... after that I looked at the skin downloads... that's the way I found it's name... it looks really clear and usable skin.... congratulation.

But the SCS.1 skin would be probably even better....
 
$246.99 is the corect price for them at moog i personally walked in to that store and bought mine at that price
 
Does the VDJ LE vailable for every SCS system owners, or just will be boundled with the newly sold SCS parts?
If someone buys these days an SCS.1 (either it is the M or the D) he gets 1 VDJ LE??
What if I buy 2 x SCS.1d and 1 x SCS.1m?? I will have 3 of the VDJ LE??

In this case I could run 3 VDJ at theh same time and connect them via LAN or wireless, to have all the PC's extra video 'signal out' for different projectors??? (kind of EyeFinity)
 
If I have 3 units it will be 3 X 'discount' when I want to upgrade from SE to Pro?
What will be 'unlocked' with this upgrade?

I wonder why is this 'SE bundle' thing is not anounced at all officially (neither on VDJ or Stanton)?
Is this will be with VDJ 8 only or 7.xx too?
 
You can only use one of your licences to get a discounted upgrade. Currently if you upgrade you will have VDJ 7 pro full with V8 to follow when it is released.

Keith
 
EO4593 wrote :
If I have 3 units it will be 3 X 'discount' when I want to upgrade from SE to Pro?
What will be 'unlocked' with this upgrade?

I wonder why is this 'SE bundle' thing is not anounced at all officially (neither on VDJ or Stanton)?
Is this will be with VDJ 8 only or 7.xx too?


As already mentioned, you can only use one (1) upgrade offer to go from LE to PRO Full.

What is 'unlocked' ??? All the PRO features .... see the comparison chart -> http://www.virtualdj.com/products/comparison.html

As for the 'official' announcement - there was an announcement made at NAMM and an official press release by Stanton will most likely follow once they are set to start shipping.
 
Cstoll:

"As already mentioned, you can only use one (1) upgrade offer to go from LE to PRO Full."



I think it would be fair, if someone owns (or buys) 3 of this prety expensive units and all these units are bundeled with 1 VDJ LE than have the possibility to get 3X discount when he decides to go PRO.... doesn't it??

Since one have to buy 3 units to get all the features as the nowdays 'all-in-one controlles' have....
plus one have to spend 2-3x as many cash as those other units cost.... (the news of 're-launch' has sky-rocketed the prices, or made the units 'temporary' unavailable)
plus one will get 3x VDJ LE....
and if the possibility to use all 3 programs in sync via network simultaniously is disabled....

than there is no real meaning to get 3 LE versions...

And thee is still NO info about the agreement between Stanton and Atomix.... does this bundle is available only for the newly produced versions or even for the previous users?? Where and when it will be downloadable if the previous users also get the LE version???
THX
 
EO4593 wrote :

than there is no real meaning to get 3 LE versions...


if the controllers comes with Vdj LE . What you will do when you sell them ?

you can have 3 licences but you need 3 different usernames .

 
EO4593 wrote :
I think it would be fair, if someone owns (or buys) 3 of this prety expensive units and all these units are bundeled with 1 VDJ LE than have the possibility to get 3X discount when he decides to go PRO.... doesn't it??


No. These units are modular, so how do Stanton know what people will buy?

If you buy 3 seperate Pro licences then you get 3 individual discounts.

EO4593 wrote :
Since one have to buy 3 units to get all the features as the nowdays 'all-in-one controlles' have....


That was your choice. Some all-in-one controllers come with some form of discount if promoted by Atomix but many come with none at all.

EO4593 wrote :
plus one have to spend 2-3x as many cash as those other units cost.... (the news of 're-launch' has sky-rocketed the prices, or made the units 'temporary' unavailable)


Also your choice. There are many alternatives out there if price is so important

EO4593 wrote :
plus one will get 3x VDJ LE.... and if the possibility to use all 3 programs in sync via network simultaniously is disabled....


I don't think this function has ever existed, and I can't even see a use for such a thing?

EO4593 wrote :
And thee is still NO info about the agreement between Stanton and Atomix.... does this bundle is available only for the newly produced versions or even for the previous users?? Where and when it will be downloadable if the previous users also get the LE version???


I'll leave that one to cstoll :)

Keith
 
kradcliffe wrote :


EO4593 wrote :
plus one will get 3x VDJ LE.... and if the possibility to use all 3 programs in sync via network simultaniously is disabled....


I don't think this function has ever existed, and I can't even see a use for such a thing?


This feature was removed .
 
Let us revisit the real purpose of Limited Edition (LE) Software - here is an article that I did with DigitalDJTips.com: http://www.digitaldjtips.com/2011/12/how-dj-software-gets-bundled-with-controllers/

The point of LE software is for the user to learn about their controller. The fact that a software company, like Atomix; allows for a discount price is completely up to the agreement between the software company and hardware company. As of right now - Atomix is the only company that even offers this type of discount.

Hardware purchasers/Users that get Serato DJ Intro or Serato ITCH are stuck with those software choices - nothing upgrades to a bigger product. Traktor is locked in doing their own thing with their own hardware. And IF Traktor does collaborate with someone (hardware) on a software then you typically get the full software but this is only after the hardware company has waited a year for Traktor to make it work. For example, look at the NS6 from Numark - released June 2011 with Itch and FULL VirtualDJ PRO support at release. The NS6 did not spring up over night - it was in development and most likely in the hands of Traktor from the early beginning. But it was just at NAMM 2012 that Numark announced the release of Numark 4TRAK. Which in turn, there really isn't an upgrade path to another Traktor package - but the user will have to pay to get the next upgrade of the software.

All the other software on the market are either years behind Atomix/VirtualDJ in providing the same level of support for the same number of controllers - or are only working on specific makes/models from the hardware manufactures in order to find a nitch in the market - djay is one of these types of software companies. But even then those software companies do not provide the same level of features that are in VirtualDJ.


As for the Stanton specific situation - as I already said, Stanton will make a more formal announcement (press releases, etc.) when the timing is right for them. That is their perogative. But in the meantime, it was announced at NAMM in multiple video interviews and confirmed here by us.

So what you might think is 'fair' or 'not-fair' is your opinion based on what you can or can not afford in hardware. The LE software is provided to you as a FREE sample of the software to try not only the capabilities of your hardware but also a specific software product. The fact that you get a discount to a FULL PRO Version of the software is simply a bonus. If you want the a specific software you end up paying for it one way or another - we just happen to give you a discount because you purchased a hardware product that shipped with our software's Limited Edition (LE).
 
DjCaro wrote :
kradcliffe wrote :


EO4593 wrote :
plus one will get 3x VDJ LE.... and if the possibility to use all 3 programs in sync via network simultaniously is disabled....


I don't think this function has ever existed, and I can't even see a use for such a thing?


This feature was removed .


It NEVER existed in the LE versions - that was the point of the question and the right answer.
 
"No. These units are modular, so how do Stanton know what people will buy? "

You are wrong!!!!
It is not Stanton should know....
It is Atomix should make it able for any SCS users (SCS.1 system owners in this case) to have an opportunity to add more than one serial number for their upgrade.... (serial of the hardware or the LE version)
There are other modular gear on the market.... (new Behringer stuffs) and if all these are collected by someone, and he gets a bunch of LE versions {which have some value, and (I bet) the hardware companies pay Atomix something for this} than the possibility to 'get rid off' those users who get LE version's serial numbers on the 'black-market' is even a good bussiness idea for Atomix too, don't you think???
Atomix get payed something for every LE version. doesn't it?

So if you can 'tick out' some of the serials (not only when it is upgrading, and extra money comes in, but way before... when registering a product/user) than those license numbers are bundled with a user, so only he gets the opportunity to make some discount....
Than everybody is happy.... you are not facing another thousands of LE users, and the user gets more discount.... :)


"I don't think this function has ever existed, and I can't even see a use for such a thing?"

You maybe heard of "DMC teams"???
Well ... try your imagination to have DJ/VJ performace with multiple users ( 4 or even more..... way more...) ...... Or there is Coldcut (Ninjatunes) as one of your promoted band...... are they using separated VDJ programs???? it could be used in sync???
BUT this is way less usefull than the previous idea were....

and to Cstoll:
The 'tale' you told is right, and my personal experience says the same with NI and SSL, This comunity is ALIVE, the creators are active members here (not like Stanton forums.... it was ALWAYS dead.... )

BUT .... This is a product which was made 4 years ago..... normally it should be natively supported by now from all the softwares.... (why it doesn't???)


And I wish I could get a few features from VDJ for it.... (and please don't tell me to go to the 'wishes and new features forum..... I did that.... loooong time ago)

An on/off swich for the varying speed of the platter .... c'mon, I'm from the analog side... it is rediculus to get every track spinning the same RPM..... and from the programmer point of view.... don't tell me that 'non-official' 4000 counts/rotation doesn't suffer any damage (in terms of accuracy) if I spin the mp3 in 0 or in + or -65% (and the hardware is still spinning 33RPM... so it is still 'only' that "non offical 4000 signals") it is simple math.... There is one of the best DD motor.... and what??? spinning with 33RPM ... ALWAYS???
it is just s2pid.... and it makes YOU guys looks LAZY....
There are not too many motorized controller out there..... just make it working.... and make it swichable for those who want it....

And an individual pitch range for every deck (again on/off option in settings for that).... Why is this sooooo complicated?? it can be made easily and nothing get damaged.... it is a simple option.... if doesn't like it, don't use it.... if needed.... turn it ON!

Same with the "pitch shift" (-8 to +8% than +8 to +24% and +24 to +40%) it would be the same.... if someone like it, (or have a creapy 7bit midi mapping for the fader, like SCS.1d) will use it, if not than ....NOT!

Don't get me wrong! Yes, I like VDJ, and even if it will take me a loong time I will get the PRO version one day.....

But the fair thing still would be (in my point of view) to be able to have more 'cupons' when people enters to PRO..... since you had earned money before (the agreement with hardware corp, you mentioned).... and it is economically makes sense too ... to not to have LE 'cupons' on the black-market!!
 
You can go on about it as much as you want but that's the policy Atomix and their partners work to.

P.S. I've edited your above post to remove the swear words, please remember this is a general forum read by everyone.

Keith
 
You know what Adam ... I have tried to work with you on all your little whinning little issues.
You clearly have no respect for what a business is and clearly only believe you are owed everything on a silver platter.
You have been given way more courtesy than even required.

I want people to understand the true power of the Stanton products and what has meant for Stanton to team up with VirtualDJ and your questions have helped in doing that.

But, I will no longer sit back and let you just have individual rants and raves about something you know nothing about and are just to ignorant to understand.

So, take this as a final warning as I my patience is wearing really thin with you right now ... either make your choice to use VirtualDJ or go bug one of the other software companies that DO NOT and WILL NEVER have the commitment to support the hardware like we are.

Have a great day and chose your words wisely if you care to respond.
 
Cstoll:

Please don't get me wrong again....
I like my Stantons and I like VDJ.... since I started my "whinning little issues" I started to respect Atomix/VDJ million times as I did (and known it at all) before...

All I wanted to give you some ideas....
Deffenetly NOT any bad ideas.... only GOOD ones...

Please look it from another perspective....

O.K. I am arrogant and things like this... :) maybe that's why I am who I am... ;)
I'm from Hungary, so I make complex sentences (because of my origin) ..... and I put words between the lines (that is by history.... you know... communism and so on...) so try to understand that I write... (mainly good words and ideas between those lines)

My critic about saying 'lazy' is about a mathematical point of view.... and if you will re-read what I wrote (when you are calm) maybe you will understad that I just want to fully benifit this 4000 controlling signals in every situation.... and as I know this is the tightest possible control at the moment on the market

I get SCS.1 since it is looks to be the closest to the analoge feel....

I made a few years of seaking for a controller..... (about 7 or 8 years now) and I always said "let's wait for another generation before changing to digital" (from Technics to Pioneer and Numark CD-players) ..... and meanwhile I tested a prety few of softwares too..... I also made my PC ready for the ideas I had (8in/8out and so on) .... after a few trying the only soft supported 4 decks (w timecode) were Mixvibes (quiet a few years ago) ... than came the millions of Midi controllers .... that gave me the ideas of video+audio mixing ... but the lack of good controller, with vinly feel ...

And than I started my "anoying" little ME! :)

Now.... I have read a lot of SCS.1 ... after I tested too and traded my Vestax mixer for SCS.1, than I saw VDJ gave a native support.... so I Tested that.... this was the first time to use VDJ... or a midi controller with a software.
And as I wrote before..... I will buy ... as I get my SCS.1 too.... This is the best I can do.... and the the best I can offer to others who thinking of make the 'swtich' from analog to digital

!!-- SCS.1 system +Virtual DJ --!! for everyone

Well, this is my way... I know yours is prety much the same ....

All our target are prety much the same.... Make (and have) the best controller and USE it as the best possible.

So please forgive me if I made you angry, ..... but the 'standing water' must be moved to go further.....

And the wolrd needs crazy people (like me) to show progress...... ;) whitout crazyness... well probably humanity would still have the idea of "flat world" or geocentric universe or other things in their mind
 
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