dj Benji
WOW!!! all this new numark stuff sounds awesum, cant wait till it comes out, iv already seen the virtual vyinals, they look pretty kool, keep us posted!!!!
dj Benji
dj Benji
Posted Fri 31 Mar 06 @ 10:45 am
Superstom
@Xeo, I'm sorry but you missed the "thing" I was referring to. Keep looking...
@dj-fat-al, I like your style of humour ;-) Are you dj-al from the Denondjforums?
@all, The video mixer is using Arkaos software. Could be a nice setup:
- 2 iCDX players, able to control the software with it directly, but also could play normal cds, mp3 cds / dvds as backup or for small gigs.
- Numark soundcard with turntable preamps, for using timecode (cd timecode is only needed if you would use other players than the iCDX)
- Nuvj controller, for controlling video, like the hot starts and the video crossfader
- proper laptop
- proper mixer
Interesting....
Ewout
@dj-fat-al, I like your style of humour ;-) Are you dj-al from the Denondjforums?
@all, The video mixer is using Arkaos software. Could be a nice setup:
- 2 iCDX players, able to control the software with it directly, but also could play normal cds, mp3 cds / dvds as backup or for small gigs.
- Numark soundcard with turntable preamps, for using timecode (cd timecode is only needed if you would use other players than the iCDX)
- Nuvj controller, for controlling video, like the hot starts and the video crossfader
- proper laptop
- proper mixer
Interesting....
Ewout
Posted Fri 31 Mar 06 @ 11:00 am
Ludek
I'm now (almost:-) sure, that virtualvinyl is only virtual DJ with new skin and bundled with Numark hardware like Numark product. But when you look at this skin better , there is new effect changer. I think, that inside is now new sound engine (VDJ 4) .The Dissusion about it is here:
http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/47564/General_Discussion/virtualdj_version_4_-_can_we_take_off_the_3_effect_slots_.html
Maybe this is the reason, why they were waiting with release VDJ 4.0 for the end of Musikmesse.
http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/47564/General_Discussion/virtualdj_version_4_-_can_we_take_off_the_3_effect_slots_.html
Maybe this is the reason, why they were waiting with release VDJ 4.0 for the end of Musikmesse.
Posted Fri 31 Mar 06 @ 2:24 pm
Rune (DJ-In-Norway)
;)
Posted Fri 31 Mar 06 @ 5:18 pm
apopsisdj
Very logical way of thinking..., so many smart guys here..
I like it !!!
I like it !!!
Posted Fri 31 Mar 06 @ 5:27 pm
Superstom
And most new versions came available on Sundays...
Ewout
Ewout
Posted Fri 31 Mar 06 @ 5:39 pm
Double O
I see this joint venture as being similar to the one formed by Stanton and Native Instruments:
http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=finalscratch2_us
OO
http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=finalscratch2_us
OO
Posted Fri 31 Mar 06 @ 7:26 pm
HipHopAnonymous
no, not so much... stanton and ni where in cahoots from the get go in regards to fs. i would say this is more like sunlite and compuware. nicolaudie created sunlite in europe... sold it for a while, then elation came around and picked it up, put their name on it and have been selling it ever since as "compuware". nicolaudie still sells sunlite, at a slightly higher price, but it is EXACTLY the same thing.... the only difference is the name. the hardware interfaces (dongles) work for ether software. really, it's all about a big name company picking up a great product from a brilliant and small foreign company and marketing it here in the usa. nicolaudie is to atomix ans numark is to elation.
Posted Fri 31 Mar 06 @ 10:04 pm
Dj Xeo
I dont know if anyone is familiar with the Lotus Elise???? small aluminium extrusion sports car by exclusive british manurfacturer Lotus. Great car.
Lotus were approached by Vauxhall/Opel to sub-manurfacture/consult on a new car to be called the VX220 / speedster. now Lotus used the well proven but under produced Elise chasis and Vauxhall distributed it as their own (same as they have done for the HSV) but soon people were saying why would i pay for that when i can get the original more hardcore Lotus. Naturaly Opel did not begin the project without a strict leagal framework to prevent the simmilarity become an issue. Lotus were not permited to relase a new version of the Elise for 2 years after the release of the VXR.
I assume you can see the similarites here and there are lots of questions raised about what restrictions Numark must have made on the development of the original VDJ product in order for it to not become a more attractive proposition. I assume the only advantage to the Numark product wont be limmited to a bundled audio interface and alot of numark stickers.
Lotus were approached by Vauxhall/Opel to sub-manurfacture/consult on a new car to be called the VX220 / speedster. now Lotus used the well proven but under produced Elise chasis and Vauxhall distributed it as their own (same as they have done for the HSV) but soon people were saying why would i pay for that when i can get the original more hardcore Lotus. Naturaly Opel did not begin the project without a strict leagal framework to prevent the simmilarity become an issue. Lotus were not permited to relase a new version of the Elise for 2 years after the release of the VXR.
I assume you can see the similarites here and there are lots of questions raised about what restrictions Numark must have made on the development of the original VDJ product in order for it to not become a more attractive proposition. I assume the only advantage to the Numark product wont be limmited to a bundled audio interface and alot of numark stickers.
Posted Fri 31 Mar 06 @ 11:28 pm
Rune (DJ-In-Norway)
its 2 different products ;)
Virtual DJ will still be Virtual DJ, so all these stories you guys post have no relevance ;)
Virtual DJ will still be Virtual DJ, so all these stories you guys post have no relevance ;)
Posted Fri 31 Mar 06 @ 11:40 pm
JeremK
LOL for the stickers :)
Posted Fri 31 Mar 06 @ 11:46 pm
Double O
dj-in-norway: "Virtual DJ will still be Virtual DJ...."
That’s the point I was trying to make in my other post on page 2—Traktor DJ Studio is still a separate product from FS, although two compines are working together. Likewise, VDJ will continue to be a separate product from Virtual Vinyl.
http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=traktor3_us
http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=finalscratch2_us
OO
That’s the point I was trying to make in my other post on page 2—Traktor DJ Studio is still a separate product from FS, although two compines are working together. Likewise, VDJ will continue to be a separate product from Virtual Vinyl.
http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=traktor3_us
http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=finalscratch2_us
OO
Posted Fri 31 Mar 06 @ 11:47 pm
Dj-Los
Spoke with Numark, hdmix2 will be out around July, iDj2 and D2 Director around Aug.
man, that's a long wait.
-Dj Los
Posted Fri 31 Mar 06 @ 11:54 pm
Dj Xeo
wel thats where your wrong FS is hardware with a little bundled application and Traktor is DJ program in its own right with lots of extra features. As far as i have seen so far the only diff between a VDJ Timecode settup and a Virtual Vinyl settup is exactly as i said. Bundled interface and some numark logos. oh and a skin. Unless there are some other differences that will be brought to our attention soon...........
i dont like to be the one to ask these questions as everyone thinks im a negetive idiot allready but its weighing on my mind that ether they're gonna be pretty much the same or there are gonna be some dissadvantages to the normal VDJ version
i dont like to be the one to ask these questions as everyone thinks im a negetive idiot allready but its weighing on my mind that ether they're gonna be pretty much the same or there are gonna be some dissadvantages to the normal VDJ version
Posted Sat 01 Apr 06 @ 12:26 am
bagpuss
Virtual DJ will be a more FULLY featured software, simular to the fact that VDJ Pro is more feature rich than the home edition (which comes FREE with the hercules DJ Console).
There is nothing but A huge advantage here, it only means Virtual DJ is going to move onto bigger and better things. The most recent of those things will be 4 with the new sound engine, which has been asked for on this forum. Aside from that look at Numarks new controllers, and didn't Dev Staff mention something about effects?, relax everyone things have just got A LOT better!
There is nothing but A huge advantage here, it only means Virtual DJ is going to move onto bigger and better things. The most recent of those things will be 4 with the new sound engine, which has been asked for on this forum. Aside from that look at Numarks new controllers, and didn't Dev Staff mention something about effects?, relax everyone things have just got A LOT better!
Posted Sat 01 Apr 06 @ 12:36 am
Dj Xeo
what so the numark Virtual Vinyl is going to be a limited version of the new VDJ 4.0?
Posted Sat 01 Apr 06 @ 12:41 am
bagpuss
Yes there will be some form of limitation, enough said.
I just didn't want anyone thinking the opposite is true ;).
Posted Sat 01 Apr 06 @ 12:45 am
Dj Xeo
fair play
Posted Sat 01 Apr 06 @ 12:46 am
Superstom
Numark normally takes the time after an announcement to get the products really in store. The CDX took them a year, the hdcd01 even longer. Hope that this gear would available soon. August for the iCDX would be ok for me. My Denon players are exacltly 2 years old then -> Time for an upgrade ;-)
All that is said before the official announcement from the corporate staff is just speculation. We just have to wait some days from now...
Ewout
All that is said before the official announcement from the corporate staff is just speculation. We just have to wait some days from now...
Ewout
Posted Sat 01 Apr 06 @ 1:24 am
Rune (DJ-In-Norway)
Exactly ;) well said Superstorm
Posted Sat 01 Apr 06 @ 4:22 am
