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vpcdjHome userMember since 2004
as more and more djs enter the market its gonna get tougher and tougher and djs will need to do all sorts of gigs.
are there any djs here who have gay gigs?
anything special we need to know about gay sets?

can someone upload or link a gay mix please.
 

Posted Fri 24 Feb 06 @ 4:39 pm
Actually, you've been doing it for a loooooong time...

Most club mixes are derived from the gay scene. Although I think this question is a bit insulting, maybe you didn't intend it that way.

My experience is that Gay Clubs PREFER to hire GAY DJs...

There is a rare club here and there that hire non-gay DJs, but these DJs are professionals and approach the gig as another gig, not a GAY GIG.

We're people too.

 

Posted Fri 24 Feb 06 @ 6:49 pm
listen2PRO InfinityMember since 2005
i'll agree a gig is a gig
 

Posted Fri 24 Feb 06 @ 6:55 pm
I think this is an interesting thread. As a gay dj and a gay club dj,......there are some REAL differences in the music the gay clubs tend (notice I said tend) to play.

Gay clubbers like NRG, Good remixes, tourch songs, Anthems, and a good groove. They tend to be ahead of the curve of other clubs. Later in the hours it tends to get more techno and house music.

I know of some remix services that sell cd's to this end, but am desperately looking for mp3 sites that you can pay to play legit. Most "straight" sites just don't carry the tunage needed!

gay clubbers tend to know thier stuff when it comes to dance music.

Most clubs do hire gay djs too. It kinda is like supporting your own...I guess.

Oh we like Diva's! (Big grin)

Ronny
 

Posted Fri 24 Feb 06 @ 8:02 pm
Well, I don't refer to myself as a "DJ" but I'm a KJ and a budding VJ... with that in mind I do a show in a gay bar on Fridays (Today in fact) that I rather enjoy. It is a happy hour show, so it has NOTHING to do with a lot of dancing.

I have a lot of videos I have put together of GAY ICONS, like Elaine Stritch, a lot of disco, diva's are a big plus, and funny, campy bits. My happy hour is VERY populated with a lot of people from the bar... most of them don't know that karaoke is ALSO going on between videos because it is terribly entertaining.

If you call "PROMO ONLY" and ask them if they have any "GAY THEMED" music, they will tell you that their CLUB scene is drawn heavily from that...

I would also add that there are people who believe that EACH gay scene, from NYC area, to SFran, to L.A. is different. I wouldn't doubt that there are straight clubs I could play this type of music in that the crowd would be loving it as well... My biggest laugh was at a straight club, watching this group of children singing Y.M.C.A., with a gay host, their parents singing along and me on the floor in the corner laughing and saying, "You have NO idea!" It was cute, funny, and ironic ALL in one.
 

Posted Fri 24 Feb 06 @ 8:09 pm
I know he didn't mean it to be insulting... I know what he means...

I disagree on the gay DJ Thing.....I'm not gay, but here in Atlanta, The gay hub of the east coast, I do gay shows all of the time. I don't do clubs, because clubs don't pay as much as mobile, but I do tons of house parties, and barbecues, and such!

Believe it or not, they like the same music as most of us! Gasp! :)

any good house, disco, trance, even some hip hop and country.... as long as it goes boom-cha, boom-cha it's all good.

do a search for circuit party mixes, and you'll see listings for different hot songs..... Also, not saying that europe is gay, but whatever is hot on the european scene is probably hot here.

it's a different world that you may be used to, and at times You may even be a bit uncomfortable, espescially if some really drunk fella decides to get more friendly with you than you would normally be comfortable with. And I'll tell you what, it happens to me every party I do.... Inevitably someone wants to "convert you" or tell you what they'd so to you, or whatever.....It's all part of the game.... They're money is just as green as anyone else's, the food at the parties is usually superb, and they sure throw a hell of a party! You just have to keep an open mind, and be a secure individual..... No one's gonna' zap you with gay rays or anything, but you'll most likely see how the other half lives!

The final benefit to doing gay parties is this... I don't know about elsewhere, but here in Atlanta, there's a ton of money in the gay community.... They're not shy to dump a ton of money into a great party. I've gone three hours over before, and I've always gotten a huge tip in the end......

wait.... that didn't sound good....

I've always recieved a large gratuity. :)
 

Posted Fri 24 Feb 06 @ 8:28 pm
I thought you were going to say, "A huge hug..." We appreciate what people do for us, although I disagree with the "CONVERT" thing... I think the rule of thumb is, "A six pack away from being gay..." but that comes down to security... wait, maybe that was, "A prison sentence away from being gay..."

And I thought "NYC" was the "GAY HUB" but I don't know... never been to Atlanta.
 

Posted Fri 24 Feb 06 @ 8:35 pm
I don't know, but supposedly we have the second largest gay pride week in the U.S..... I know that every year we are invaded by thousands of feathers and gold lame, hot pants and high heeled boots, dykes on bikes, etc... man, it's a wild scene! piedmont park is taken over, and I'm always there set up in the park spinning music and karaoke, and handing out business cards by the hundreds!

the gay community are some of my best customers! And unlike most straight weddings, everyone dances! To ignore such a huge portion of our community's demographic because it's not our cup of tea, is just plain irresponsible from a business stand point, and a social stand point.

I don't judge, I just cash checks!

-Steve
 

Posted Fri 24 Feb 06 @ 8:55 pm
djejPRO InfinityMember since 2004
The only difference is all the people that invade Atlanta during those weeks live all year in NY lol.

Here's a list of classics that get this crowd going if they're a little older. Worked great for me. Other then that all the other advice is spot on. Whatever would get they typical club scene going will work. I'm sure you could find more with a few googles.

http://gayinfo.tripod.com/gaytop100.html
 

Posted Fri 24 Feb 06 @ 9:00 pm
Dj XeoPRO InfinityMember since 2005
how would you take offence from what vpcdj said? what part of that was offensive? Repace the word gay with coutry music and think to yourself would you be offended as a country music fan?

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as more and more djs enter the market its gonna get tougher and tougher and djs will need to do all sorts of gigs.
are there any djs here who have country music gigs?
anything special we need to know about country music sets?

can someone upload or link a country music mix please.
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Posted Sat 25 Feb 06 @ 2:36 am
hey
i've never done a gay gig and if i got the oppurtunity i would jump to it. i am not gay but i am a slave to seeing people on the dance floor it is as if it is a drug and i get such a wicked high when i see people dance to my music it makes me feel appreciated and lets me know that i am doing somthing right.

when i have gig's that are all straight peolpe and they don't dance i think to my self what's wrong and when they do dance it makes me feel great and i even dance when i'm playing mysic behind the booth and when people see that it lets them know that i'm liking the music too. i've played at gigs where there were a few gay people and i tell you they sure knew their music and they danced all night and had a great time.

and the word gay puts too much of a tag on them i just prefer to think of them as party people :)
 

Posted Sat 25 Feb 06 @ 3:07 am
Okay... it's in my bio/blogs... I'm gay. Proud, and all that other Sh$t. Reality is, the poster asked a question about, "Help with GAY GIGS..." My suspicion (despite the fact the person isn't a registered user) is that this person has issues... truth is, Gay people in the rural community WON'T be beating down any DJ's door to do a gig UNLESS one of two things exist... 1) That DJ is EXCEPTIONAL! 2) That DJ is CUTE and has shown a tendency/interest in gay bars.

I'm not here to try and WATER things down, but the truth is, REALLY GOOD GAY BARS, have REALLY GOOD GAY DJs... who NORMALLY play in straight bars BECAUSE, as I pointed out, they are spinning the GOOD SH!T WELL in advance of the straight DJs...

It should be noted, I do NOT consider myself a GREAT "GAY" DJ, just one who knows that if you are going to throw a party and you want to blow away your crowd with GREAT dance music, best thing is to hire a GAY DJ... if you aren't given the BEST SHOW, it will be close and none of the girls are going to go home with him... but your best friend may surprise you after six beers ;0)

HA HA HA

sorry.
 

Posted Sat 25 Feb 06 @ 6:44 am
bagpussPRO InfinityMember since 2003
oh yes we are all gay after we've had lots to drink! thank God that isn't true.

Why do I suddenly miss women on this forum?

I think the thread starter was quite complimentary if anything, there are many DJ's who wouldn't go near anything that's branded "gay", so it was his interest alone which caused him to write the thread.
 

Posted Sat 25 Feb 06 @ 12:53 pm
Ok, Okay... you got me, I drink and think everyone is gay... NOT!

Perhaps I shouldn't have been so delicate... I should have said it like this:

Gay people can sense when someone is uncomfortable working for them, or with them. I believe (not founded in evidence) that that is why a lot of gay people that are out at work are very funny, flambouyant, and nelly... (I am none of the last two, and barely funny). The guy in the upper right corner of this website looks fruitier than I.

Anyway, my non-slamming response to this person is, If you have any issues with gay people, or if you see working at a lesbian bar as a chance to hit up chicks, you may want to steer clear. When I'm in a bar and I know that DJ is straight, and it's a gay bar, you can hear the rumors, "Gay for Pay," and the whatnaught.

If you have gay friends and are comfortable around them and they like what you spin, see if they can get you a gig in a bar, but don't just go in expecting to work... try to go and hang out first.

As a KJ/VJ, I ALWAYS do this ANYWAY no matter where it is. I don't just say, "Okay, where's the gig?" show up and expect to play and be okay with it. I like to assess the room, the sound potential, what I need to bring, what I need to leave at home, etc., etc. Most importantly, again this is just for me, I like to know I can "work" the room. If I don't feel comfortable, I don't do the job, it's THAT simple.

If you don't feel comfortable around "gay gigs" you shouldn't do them. Perhaps I errored in jumping to how good of a DJ you are... that will work itself out. Your emotions, feelings, and prejudices, MAY get worked out, but it will be a lot longer and harder.

Oh yes, and as someone politely pointed out earlier, plan on getting hit on, especially if you are attractive. I'm sure that if BagPuss works in a gay bar, he's going to get hit on ALL THE TIME... it is HOW you deal with this professionally (and that's the key word) that will make or break your being able to work in that environment.

I will also add this (not with in ulterior motive, OR implying anything): If you see working a "GAY GIG" to work out your own "issues" or "internal conflicts" I would't recommend it, but if you feel that it adds credibility to it, it's hard to say. I only add this because I do talk to a LOT of people that are married, have children and have gay tendencies. I play BF2 Online and I'm in a clan. One of my former clan-mates (and they all know I'm gay) came out to me. He's a trucker and he has these urges he feels he needs to act on. I've talked to him and given him positive advice from my experiences. If this in any way describes you and you think that stepping into a gay bar as an employee will help you resolve this, you may be right, but I'd also say seek some professional help.

Please, don't everyone FLAME me for that. I can't possibly know the original poster's intent, I'm fishing and not getting responses. On top of that, he's NOT a registered user... He may be of another group, and felt uncomfortable talking to them about it and decided to ask here... let's just hope he makes the switch and drops the.... disk HA HA HA!
 

Posted Sat 25 Feb 06 @ 4:08 pm
bagpussPRO InfinityMember since 2003
hehehe..

Being about the biggest political animal on the forum I'd like it that we quickly revert to the original subject matter without looking into it any deeper (about Homosexuality), I think all the truth has been told in that regard (gigs).

A gig is a gig, you should be hired for your DJ skills, one of those skills is reading the crowd, there is no "gay" genre of music, everyone has their own taste, so do as you'd do at any other gig.

I think taking on a gig in any other manner would just be prejudice, and if you are prejudice then you are definatly not suited to the "gay" club scene.

I'm not saying what you should and shouldn't talk about, I'm just saying I disagree with where this thread is likely to head unless we focus on the topic as it is, else we are going to get lost in extremely complex politics (and the blood, sweat and tears associated with them).
 

Posted Sat 25 Feb 06 @ 4:40 pm
And politics leads to religion, and religion leads to Iraq, I mean war.
 

Posted Sat 25 Feb 06 @ 4:42 pm
bagpussPRO InfinityMember since 2003
Not quite how I'd word it but you get the idea, damn that's provocative, I could write some more..best not though ah ;).
 

Posted Sat 25 Feb 06 @ 4:48 pm
mp3jrickPRO InfinityHonorary MemberMember since 2003
Funny to see prejudice work in both directions, it's like a different colored racism.

There are now many who are curious and there have been tendencies in the last few years to relax and except the gay community.
Those same people are now competing for those gay gigs, starting off with weddings recently.
It's not a case of "gay for pay", I was asked because they knew me and were comfortable around me.
"Gay for pay" sounds prejudice as hell to me, you have to give people a chance or it's prejudice period.

As more gays come out, and more people come to realize from aquaintences that gays are normal, the edge will come off and less fuss will be made.
I know from my own personal experience that nothing breaks down the phobe faster than learning of a good friend from the other side.
I used to have reservations about gays and that is a thing of the past for me.
I have done gay gigs and a gay wedding, it all has been quite a transition for me.

Recently in my nearest town there was a hate crime committed, even the dudes closest friends condemmed what he did. People like that will never change, but hopefully as time goes on there will be less of them to worry about.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/02/02/gay.shooting/

Things are coming around, it will take time.
A new school of thought is making its way and the ice is melting so to speak.

So lets not draw lines in the sand, it works against nuetralizing phobes and against the best interest of gays who want to be open about things.

Just my opinion
 

Posted Sat 25 Feb 06 @ 5:01 pm
The term, "Gay for pay" is drawn from a lot of porno stars (male) who can't get good paying gigs in straight porno, so they are "gay for pay" because they are very attractive and can make more money in gay porno...

I guess you would had to have been gay to get that subtlty and that it was not a prejudice, but rather a rib...

mp3jrick is correct, however, as the walls of prejudices fall, so will opportunties abound... I can't wait to have a STRAIGHT Guy decorate my condo... or arrange flowers for me... I think too, stereotypes fit in here somewhere.

I will say, as a gay person, that I enjoyed the spirit of this thread, and never felt persecuted. This isn't suppose to be a place we come to express our political, social and other views, it can, however, be a place to overcome obstacles associated with our profession even when those political, social and other views get in the way.

Great thread, but I still think you've got a road to tow before you can start doing more gay gigs... we also have to get over our prejudices.
 

Posted Sat 25 Feb 06 @ 5:58 pm
I just want to throw this in for what it is worth...And it is historically correct:

The ENTIRE art of Club Dj-ing started out of necessity. You see back in the day...gay dance clubs before dj's when bands would play for dancing folk (were talking the 1960's here folks) couldn't get straight bands to come in to play...so they turned to the turntables (wanting something more fabulous than a regular jukebox!) and voila! Club style dj-ing was born....It wasn't untill the advent of the late 70's disco movement did some of our people decide to release remixes on vinyl.

So, you see, you can all thank us! Out of adversity comes a thing of beauty!

Ronny
 

Posted Sat 25 Feb 06 @ 9:39 pm
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