Loki Max
I would love feedback on this skin I made. It's perfect for my needs, but maybe not perfect enough. With your valuable feedback perhaps I can make the skin even better.
OPTIMIZED THIS FOR MY FLAT, PORTABLE, EXTERNAL MONITOR because using this monitor is much nicer than having a laptop blocking my view of the audience....dimensions are not the same as the MacBook screen. If the pad buttons are cut off, try using it in windowed mode (not maximized) and stretch it out. If people give me feedback on the skin, the next update will have a second version optimized for the MacBook screen size.
There is a remap within the zip file which makes sense to use with the skin. Open the skin zip, find the remap zip and drop it into the remap folder.
Most of the remaps you should be able to figure out by looking at the skin layout. It sort of mirrors the layout of the actual controller. They are as follows:
The remaps on the mixer:
Tap = toggle EQ mode from classic to stem control
Shift + Tap = toggle the range for the pitch fader, it seems to affect both turntables so I think we don't need a button on each deck for this.
Remaps for turntable controls:
RANGE = sync/pitch lock
Shift + RANGE = toggle key lock
SYNC = toggle smart cue,
Shift + SYNC = toggle smart play
Cue = set beat grid
Slip = slip lock
Shift + Slip = toggle beat lock
THE RED CENSOR BUTTON = it toggles vinyl/jog mode....I found that using the censor and reverse functions sometimes glitch out and you need to restart Virtual DJ. Since this could potentially mess up a performance, I just removed the mapping altogether--removed the risk.
pitch up and down buttons = beat jump
Shift + pitch up/down = key move / key shift
OPTIMIZED THIS FOR MY FLAT, PORTABLE, EXTERNAL MONITOR because using this monitor is much nicer than having a laptop blocking my view of the audience....dimensions are not the same as the MacBook screen. If the pad buttons are cut off, try using it in windowed mode (not maximized) and stretch it out. If people give me feedback on the skin, the next update will have a second version optimized for the MacBook screen size.
There is a remap within the zip file which makes sense to use with the skin. Open the skin zip, find the remap zip and drop it into the remap folder.
Most of the remaps you should be able to figure out by looking at the skin layout. It sort of mirrors the layout of the actual controller. They are as follows:
The remaps on the mixer:
Tap = toggle EQ mode from classic to stem control
Shift + Tap = toggle the range for the pitch fader, it seems to affect both turntables so I think we don't need a button on each deck for this.
Remaps for turntable controls:
RANGE = sync/pitch lock
Shift + RANGE = toggle key lock
SYNC = toggle smart cue,
Shift + SYNC = toggle smart play
Cue = set beat grid
Slip = slip lock
Shift + Slip = toggle beat lock
THE RED CENSOR BUTTON = it toggles vinyl/jog mode....I found that using the censor and reverse functions sometimes glitch out and you need to restart Virtual DJ. Since this could potentially mess up a performance, I just removed the mapping altogether--removed the risk.
pitch up and down buttons = beat jump
Shift + pitch up/down = key move / key shift
Posted 5 days ago @ 4:46 am
PhantomDeejay
1) Where's the browser ? I find the browser area (or the browser vs rest of the skin ratio) the most important thing on a skin.
2) If it's behind a panel (you toggle browser on/off) then WHY ? I believe most of us DJs are constantly looking at our browsers to find tracks to play next. IMHO browser should be ALWAYS visible, even if small.
3) Why do you feel the need to waste so much screen area for elements you already have in front of you.
You have a controller with big rotating platters. Why do you feel the need to mirror that on the skin ?
I mean yes, a jog on the screen is always useful, but does it need to take all that space ?
4) Personally I don't like skins that are "photos" / "images" of a hardware controller.
The reason is quite simple: If I have the real thing in front of me, I don't need it to be copied on my screen.
The skin should complement the controller and provide what the controller lacks off.
Imagine how a Denon Prime 4 or XDJ-AZ would look if on their screen they showed just a "copy" of their hardware layout..
Of course that's a personal taste and some people may still like skins that look like the hardware. But it's pointless from a practical standpoind IMHO
2) If it's behind a panel (you toggle browser on/off) then WHY ? I believe most of us DJs are constantly looking at our browsers to find tracks to play next. IMHO browser should be ALWAYS visible, even if small.
3) Why do you feel the need to waste so much screen area for elements you already have in front of you.
You have a controller with big rotating platters. Why do you feel the need to mirror that on the skin ?
I mean yes, a jog on the screen is always useful, but does it need to take all that space ?
4) Personally I don't like skins that are "photos" / "images" of a hardware controller.
The reason is quite simple: If I have the real thing in front of me, I don't need it to be copied on my screen.
The skin should complement the controller and provide what the controller lacks off.
Imagine how a Denon Prime 4 or XDJ-AZ would look if on their screen they showed just a "copy" of their hardware layout..
Of course that's a personal taste and some people may still like skins that look like the hardware. But it's pointless from a practical standpoind IMHO
Posted 5 days ago @ 7:35 am
the SOUND INSURGENT
NO! This is a terrible waste space lmao!! You literally have the controller in front of you!! You dont need a skin that shows you everything you already have in front of your face plus toggling the browser has to be a complete nightmare.
Posted 5 days ago @ 1:16 pm
groovindj
Agreed with what's been said already by Phantom and TSI - but one positive note, I do like the way the FX have been given more space and the FX knobs are named.
That's one thing missing IMO from many skins. A label for each knob and a display of the setting (i.e. 35% or 1/4 beat etc). Most controllers don't have displays for the FX, just knobs and buttons, so it helps to see "that's a resonance knob and it's at 63%".
Ditto for being able to see what each pad is doing (i.e. sample name). Labels are useful.
That's one thing missing IMO from many skins. A label for each knob and a display of the setting (i.e. 35% or 1/4 beat etc). Most controllers don't have displays for the FX, just knobs and buttons, so it helps to see "that's a resonance knob and it's at 63%".
Ditto for being able to see what each pad is doing (i.e. sample name). Labels are useful.
Posted 5 days ago @ 1:40 pm
locoDog
touch screen and the ability to skin, you have practically infinite buttons you can script, custom effect chains you could control.
Stuff were you want to deviate from what the hardware shows [like scripting round fake eq briefly]
I get the concept of thing looks like thing, it makes the navigation easy but is it really that hard to separate; hardware does that, interface that you poured hours into does other stuff
Well done on getting the learning done though, technically decent even if I think the initial concept wasn't great.
But hey it's a skin, you could always get rid of the fluff [like the rane logo, completely useless] add some buttons to call panels and add some interesting stuff.
Personal skins are never finished, development abandoned sometimes but never finished.
Stuff were you want to deviate from what the hardware shows [like scripting round fake eq briefly]
I get the concept of thing looks like thing, it makes the navigation easy but is it really that hard to separate; hardware does that, interface that you poured hours into does other stuff
Well done on getting the learning done though, technically decent even if I think the initial concept wasn't great.
But hey it's a skin, you could always get rid of the fluff [like the rane logo, completely useless] add some buttons to call panels and add some interesting stuff.
Personal skins are never finished, development abandoned sometimes but never finished.
Posted 5 days ago @ 1:47 pm
groovindj
I see this started back in April (and he's just bumped it) HERE
Posted 5 days ago @ 2:05 pm
Loki Max
groovindj wrote :
I see this started back in April (and he's just bumped it) HERE
Not really fair to say it's a bump. The other thread was posted by a different me who knew nothing about writing code. I wanted commission someone to make a skin for me...or maybe get some tips on how do actually make the skin.
At this point I can now write the code myself. *This* thread is not asking for tips on HOW to do it nor is it about hiring someone to make the skin for me. Now I want feedback on the finished product to maybe tweak it.
PhantomDeejay wrote :
1) Where's the browser ? I find the browser area (or the browser vs rest of the skin ratio) the most important thing on a skin.
2) If it's behind a panel (you toggle browser on/off) then WHY ? I believe most of us DJs are constantly looking at our browsers to find tracks to play next. IMHO browser should be ALWAYS visible, even if small.
3) Why do you feel the need to waste so much screen area for elements you already have in front of you.
You have a controller with big rotating platters. Why do you feel the need to mirror that on the skin ?
I mean yes, a jog on the screen is always useful, but does it need to take all that space ?
4) Personally I don't like skins that are "photos" / "images" of a hardware controller.
The reason is quite simple: If I have the real thing in front of me, I don't need it to be copied on my screen.
The skin should complement the controller and provide what the controller lacks off.
Imagine how a Denon Prime 4 or XDJ-AZ would look if on their screen they showed just a "copy" of their hardware layout..
Of course that's a personal taste and some people may still like skins that look like the hardware. But it's pointless from a practical standpoind IMHO
2) If it's behind a panel (you toggle browser on/off) then WHY ? I believe most of us DJs are constantly looking at our browsers to find tracks to play next. IMHO browser should be ALWAYS visible, even if small.
3) Why do you feel the need to waste so much screen area for elements you already have in front of you.
You have a controller with big rotating platters. Why do you feel the need to mirror that on the skin ?
I mean yes, a jog on the screen is always useful, but does it need to take all that space ?
4) Personally I don't like skins that are "photos" / "images" of a hardware controller.
The reason is quite simple: If I have the real thing in front of me, I don't need it to be copied on my screen.
The skin should complement the controller and provide what the controller lacks off.
Imagine how a Denon Prime 4 or XDJ-AZ would look if on their screen they showed just a "copy" of their hardware layout..
Of course that's a personal taste and some people may still like skins that look like the hardware. But it's pointless from a practical standpoind IMHO
1) If you just press the browser view button, believe it or not, the browser will become visible.
2) I personally don't look at the browser very much. If you prefer to spend most of your time looking at the browser then I recommend only pressing the toggle button once per performance, as pressing it again will toggle it back off. I'm starting to think you didn't give me feedback, but prejudice. Please try the skin lol...anyway thanks for the reply.
3) There are two reasons. Firstly, I'm far sighted and I need everything to be bigger--hence the very large text in browser view. Secondly, I love the rotating platters from the default skin and I think it's great EYE CANDY. It's just a nice thing to look at. Not everyone cares about this.
4) I thought a great deal on this point and decided if I wasn't going to make this skin to resemble the hardware that there are great skins already out there, even the default skins are good for this...but because I remapped some buttons, the visual aid of the skin will remind you which button you need to press because the physical mixer's labels are misleading since they are remapped.
locoDog wrote :
touch screen and the ability to skin, you have practically infinite buttons you can script, custom effect chains you could control.
Stuff were you want to deviate from what the hardware shows [like scripting round fake eq briefly]
I get the concept of thing looks like thing, it makes the navigation easy but is it really that hard to separate; hardware does that, interface that you poured hours into does other stuff
Well done on getting the learning done though, technically decent even if I think the initial concept wasn't great.
But hey it's a skin, you could always get rid of the fluff [like the rane logo, completely useless] add some buttons to call panels and add some interesting stuff.
Personal skins are never finished, development abandoned sometimes but never finished.
Stuff were you want to deviate from what the hardware shows [like scripting round fake eq briefly]
I get the concept of thing looks like thing, it makes the navigation easy but is it really that hard to separate; hardware does that, interface that you poured hours into does other stuff
Well done on getting the learning done though, technically decent even if I think the initial concept wasn't great.
But hey it's a skin, you could always get rid of the fluff [like the rane logo, completely useless] add some buttons to call panels and add some interesting stuff.
Personal skins are never finished, development abandoned sometimes but never finished.
Did you try the skin? I don't think you did. You see the "options" button? Click it. The top panel with effects and rane logo can change to a recording panel, or a DJ logo (it's my logo but you just edit the image file with the skin to put your own DJ logo) or you can just have horizontal scratch waves. Please give feedback and not prejudice please, thank you for your comments.
Posted 8 hours ago
Loki Max
groovindj wrote :
Agreed with what's been said already by Phantom and TSI - but one positive note, I do like the way the FX have been given more space and the FX knobs are named.
That's one thing missing IMO from many skins. A label for each knob and a display of the setting (i.e. 35% or 1/4 beat etc). Most controllers don't have displays for the FX, just knobs and buttons, so it helps to see "that's a resonance knob and it's at 63%".
Ditto for being able to see what each pad is doing (i.e. sample name). Labels are useful.
That's one thing missing IMO from many skins. A label for each knob and a display of the setting (i.e. 35% or 1/4 beat etc). Most controllers don't have displays for the FX, just knobs and buttons, so it helps to see "that's a resonance knob and it's at 63%".
Ditto for being able to see what each pad is doing (i.e. sample name). Labels are useful.
Thank you. I'm far sighted so when things are close to me it's harder to see. Everything needed to be so big for my eyes. This is also why the browser is hidden when not in use. The text is so big and the browser takes almost all the screen.
To everyone else, please know that this skin was made for my needs. I'm far sighted using a 12 inch monitor. I can't have the browser AND all my preferred visual elements on the screen together or things will be too small and fuzzy for my eyes to read. This is why the browser view has minimal visual elements (BPM, Key, time, minimal beat match waves) and BIG TEXT.
Posted 8 hours ago
PhantomDeejay
BTW: No one can "try" your skin because it was not submited for review according to the forum rules, and therefore removed.
Just FYI.
Also don't ask for feedback if you are not prepared to hear what other people think, bad or good.
If the skin fits your needs it's fine. Perfectly acceptable. No-one is saying otherwise. But you asked for our opinion/feedback and we provided our thoughts. You don't have to like them, as we don't have to like your skin. But you have to respect them, as we respect that this skins fits YOUR needs.
I don't think any of the people involved was disrespectful. But more or less everybody come down to the same 2/3 observations.
Remember, asking for feedback is literally like asking "would you use this skin, and do you like it ?"
So, everybody answered that question. Not if the skin is good for you :)
Finally a personal advise: Get a bigger monitor. I'm using 17 inch laptops for DJ-ing for almost 15 years now. It's perfectly fine. Don't confine yourself on a 12 inch monitor, especially if you have sight seeing issues. If you're not using a laptop then get yourself an even bigger monitor. 22/23 inch.
It will make a huge difference, much bigger than coding a skin with 24 or 36 points font.
Just FYI.
Also don't ask for feedback if you are not prepared to hear what other people think, bad or good.
If the skin fits your needs it's fine. Perfectly acceptable. No-one is saying otherwise. But you asked for our opinion/feedback and we provided our thoughts. You don't have to like them, as we don't have to like your skin. But you have to respect them, as we respect that this skins fits YOUR needs.
I don't think any of the people involved was disrespectful. But more or less everybody come down to the same 2/3 observations.
Remember, asking for feedback is literally like asking "would you use this skin, and do you like it ?"
So, everybody answered that question. Not if the skin is good for you :)
Finally a personal advise: Get a bigger monitor. I'm using 17 inch laptops for DJ-ing for almost 15 years now. It's perfectly fine. Don't confine yourself on a 12 inch monitor, especially if you have sight seeing issues. If you're not using a laptop then get yourself an even bigger monitor. 22/23 inch.
It will make a huge difference, much bigger than coding a skin with 24 or 36 points font.
Posted 7 hours ago