Holodroid
Hi,
Another question. Is it possible to use double-tap action on a touchscreen? I added EQ reset buttons and I think that double-tap action is a safer solution (you don't want reset your EQ by mistake)... Double click works only with mouse and doesn't responses to the taping. Thx
Another question. Is it possible to use double-tap action on a touchscreen? I added EQ reset buttons and I think that double-tap action is a safer solution (you don't want reset your EQ by mistake)... Double click works only with mouse and doesn't responses to the taping. Thx
Posted Tue 30 Jul 19 @ 9:23 pm
Nicotux
It seems Doubleclick action does not work for me in VDJ and touch my screen even it does in system i.e. to move VDJ windows
but right click/holding do not seems to work either in VDJ
Works fine out of VDJ and in test tools
may depend on driver
but right click/holding do not seems to work either in VDJ
Works fine out of VDJ and in test tools
may depend on driver
Posted Tue 30 Jul 19 @ 9:42 pm
locoDog
Skinning isn't my bag so I can't test your findings, but the doubleclick action is actually just a repeat_start script condensed to a single verb
*Edit but Nicotux can :) *
var 'doubleclick' ? set 'doubleclick' 0 & repeat_stop 'myrep' & YOUR ACTION : set 'doubleclick' 1 & repeat_start 'myrep' 400ms 1 & YOUR SINGLECLICK ACTION & set 'doubleclick' 0
*Edit but Nicotux can :) *
var 'doubleclick' ? set 'doubleclick' 0 & repeat_stop 'myrep' & YOUR ACTION : set 'doubleclick' 1 & repeat_start 'myrep' 400ms 1 & YOUR SINGLECLICK ACTION & set 'doubleclick' 0
Posted Tue 30 Jul 19 @ 9:43 pm
Holodroid
I found some info there:
https://es.virtualdj.com/forums/219081/VirtualDJ_Skins/VDJ_not_responding_to__right_click__and_double_click____.html
I understand that right click/holding is a problem but double click...
By the way, I tested that "elastic" pitch and its work way better as Time stretch +/- buttons which are implemented in vdj basic skin. After implementation, I really started to enjoy mixing with the touchscreen. Thx
https://es.virtualdj.com/forums/219081/VirtualDJ_Skins/VDJ_not_responding_to__right_click__and_double_click____.html
I understand that right click/holding is a problem but double click...
By the way, I tested that "elastic" pitch and its work way better as Time stretch +/- buttons which are implemented in vdj basic skin. After implementation, I really started to enjoy mixing with the touchscreen. Thx
Posted Tue 30 Jul 19 @ 9:56 pm
Nicotux
Ok Locodog pointed it out once again
but with a little tweek it works like a charm !
var 'doubleclick' ? up ? set 'doubleclick' 0 & repeat_stop 'myrep' & YOUR ACTION : nothing : set 'doubleclick' 1 & repeat_start 'myrep' 400ms 1 & set 'doubleclick' 0 & YOUR SINGLECLICK ACTION
*Edit: take care not to wait long i.e.450ms else driver takes it as a rightclick
but with a little tweek it works like a charm !
var 'doubleclick' ? up ? set 'doubleclick' 0 & repeat_stop 'myrep' & YOUR ACTION : nothing : set 'doubleclick' 1 & repeat_start 'myrep' 400ms 1 & set 'doubleclick' 0 & YOUR SINGLECLICK ACTION
*Edit: take care not to wait long i.e.450ms else driver takes it as a rightclick
Posted Tue 30 Jul 19 @ 9:58 pm
Holodroid
Something is wrong... I am sure that this is my fault. I replaced" YOUR ACTION" with eq_reset and YOUR SINGLECLICK ACTION was removed because there is no single click action yet. I paste it inside button like this. And it works but for a single click...
<button deck="left" action="var 'doubleclick' ? up ? set 'doubleclick' 0 & repeat_stop 'myrep' & eq_reset : nothing : set 'doubleclick' 1 & repeat_start 'myrep' 400ms 1 & set 'doubleclick' 0" >
<pos x="735" y="120" />
<size width="60" height="60" />
<up x="0" y="3640" />
<down x="60" y="3640" />
</button>
<button deck="left" action="var 'doubleclick' ? up ? set 'doubleclick' 0 & repeat_stop 'myrep' & eq_reset : nothing : set 'doubleclick' 1 & repeat_start 'myrep' 400ms 1 & set 'doubleclick' 0" >
<pos x="735" y="120" />
<size width="60" height="60" />
<up x="0" y="3640" />
<down x="60" y="3640" />
</button>
Posted Tue 30 Jul 19 @ 10:14 pm
locoDog
<button deck="left" action="var 'doubleclick' ? set 'doubleclick' 0 & repeat_stop 'myrep' & eq_reset : set 'doubleclick' 1 & repeat_start 'myrep' 400ms 1 & set 'doubleclick' 0" >
<pos x="735" y="120" />
<size width="60" height="60" />
<up x="0" y="3640" />
<down x="60" y="3640" />
</button>
try that, I'm not sure why nico add the up query
<pos x="735" y="120" />
<size width="60" height="60" />
<up x="0" y="3640" />
<down x="60" y="3640" />
</button>
try that, I'm not sure why nico add the up query
Posted Tue 30 Jul 19 @ 10:26 pm
Nicotux
My Fault ****
script i send is holding / click
locodog's script is working
script i send is holding / click
locodog's script is working
Posted Tue 30 Jul 19 @ 10:29 pm
Holodroid
Perfect! Thank you both.
Posted Tue 30 Jul 19 @ 10:34 pm
Holodroid
Hi again.
I think that the basic flow I have completed. I started to customize the browser and I have this:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ou8joxl8ReS8VhZTrBgfnKOR6jOyNJvb
and need this :D
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZfgM9VfOLHEwVvljvlMkZQ2MYEupBhH2
Is it possible:
Change icons (graphic) in folder list?
Specific concrete folders that will be displayed in the folder list? For example only hard drives (C:/, D:/...), desktop and documents and hide others?
Remove or reskin scrolling slider and arrows in a file list and folder list?
Remove the sorting part with a title, artist, remix... in the file list?
Show songs in 3 columns?
Change played icon from note to the small green/red play icon as you can see in the design file?
Change spacing and text colors in file and folder list?
Thx for any help!
I think that the basic flow I have completed. I started to customize the browser and I have this:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ou8joxl8ReS8VhZTrBgfnKOR6jOyNJvb
and need this :D
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZfgM9VfOLHEwVvljvlMkZQ2MYEupBhH2
Is it possible:
Change icons (graphic) in folder list?
Specific concrete folders that will be displayed in the folder list? For example only hard drives (C:/, D:/...), desktop and documents and hide others?
Remove or reskin scrolling slider and arrows in a file list and folder list?
Remove the sorting part with a title, artist, remix... in the file list?
Show songs in 3 columns?
Change played icon from note to the small green/red play icon as you can see in the design file?
Change spacing and text colors in file and folder list?
Thx for any help!
Posted Wed 31 Jul 19 @ 5:33 pm
locoDog
Try browser tweaks for some of these
http://www.virtualdj.com/plugins/index.html?addonid=80491
For the folder list make your desired folders favourites and hide all others
http://www.virtualdj.com/plugins/index.html?addonid=80491
For the folder list make your desired folders favourites and hide all others
Posted Wed 31 Jul 19 @ 5:50 pm
Nicotux
Oops!! I forgot to click save to send post !/
This time it's a really big deal
But With VDJ nothing is really impossible http://www.virtualdj.com/wiki/Custom%20Browser.html
It took some time to try things ... no great success
3 columns by choosing carefully element sizes i.e. https://imgdb.net/5994
the QnD initial test code in the floating window ""floatingTestBrowser"" : https://pastebin.com/UfTLM8hQ
movable by the left & right borders. Almost all pos and size are hardcoded
the result : https://imgdb.net/5995 shown on top of default screen
It seems really too difficult to customize the browser as much as this point
But this is a start point. Maybe some workarounds can be found
There are some other points to take in consideration :
- The status box, right of the chooser is important
- effects GUIs are needed
- sideview and playlists
- preview/Info
....
Finally there is possibly a HARD WAY: you may prefer not to use the internal browser in display and implement yours manually
everything needed seems ready for anyone wanting to test the adventure
This time it's a really big deal
But With VDJ nothing is really impossible http://www.virtualdj.com/wiki/Custom%20Browser.html
It took some time to try things ... no great success
3 columns by choosing carefully element sizes i.e. https://imgdb.net/5994
the QnD initial test code in the floating window ""floatingTestBrowser"" : https://pastebin.com/UfTLM8hQ
movable by the left & right borders. Almost all pos and size are hardcoded
the result : https://imgdb.net/5995 shown on top of default screen
It seems really too difficult to customize the browser as much as this point
But this is a start point. Maybe some workarounds can be found
There are some other points to take in consideration :
- The status box, right of the chooser is important
- effects GUIs are needed
- sideview and playlists
- preview/Info
....
Finally there is possibly a HARD WAY: you may prefer not to use the internal browser in display and implement yours manually
everything needed seems ready for anyone wanting to test the adventure
Posted Thu 01 Aug 19 @ 2:20 pm
Nicotux
This is not a simple task
As shown in this screen capture :
- General look is ok,
- Ways to display only slots with tracks found
- A Hack to make tracks infos dropable to decks found
https://imgdb.net/6001
the ghost cover is the currently "send it to deck" dropped track - cursor position was removed by capture
badly the last one seems to break the ability to mark the track as played
still todo :
- fix the above
- the first track to display (currently starts at top - first one)
As shown in this screen capture :
- General look is ok,
- Ways to display only slots with tracks found
- A Hack to make tracks infos dropable to decks found
https://imgdb.net/6001
the ghost cover is the currently "send it to deck" dropped track - cursor position was removed by capture
badly the last one seems to break the ability to mark the track as played
still todo :
- fix the above
- the first track to display (currently starts at top - first one)
Posted Fri 02 Aug 19 @ 2:25 pm
Holodroid
First, thx. I really appreciate your help!
Here is my alpha version:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OEinqEAVgFQMEaypm_p_UFI9Ytw4vJxw
I will be happy if you test it and give me feedback about usability and ergonomy. It is designed for laptop touch screens in my case 14". For different screen sizes will be necessary to create a different layouts. Browser is still shit and I have some questions and feedback to your work.
I tested your code. And I have some problems. I don't think so that the windowed version is a good way because that window doesn't have a fixed position. If you move with the browser next time when you start the VDj window is gone. Only factory reset helps to show the browser again.
I found that for drag and drop songs is necessary to show an Album art which is super stupid. But it looks that you found some solution how to hack that. Can you tell me more?
About features like sideview and playlists... My vision is to create a compact and small design without "bullshits". From my perspective the usability of original VDj skins is bad. And one thing which is responsible for that is the fact that the original design is created for everybody. But design for everybody doesn't exist! So you have tons of features combine with some mistakes in interaction design and the result is a mess. I don't need a mess I need a clear interface with grate usability for a specific group of DJs. But not everything is bad :D Is just grate that there is a possibility to create your own skin which will work for your use case. And this feature is there for everybody and that is awesome.
Anyway Is it possible to change the position of Artist, Title or other elements in the browser list? Original spacing and alignment are terrible...
Is there an action for reset root folders and show only music, video, karaoke? In that case, I will remove the original folder options button.
I dont know how to change colors in any custom browser elements. Its look that these syntaxes don't work for the custom browser. Because I changed only font or line spacing nothing more...
https://www.virtualdj.com/wiki/Skin%20Browser.html
I will be happy if you try some magic and help me "finish" it. Thx Karel
PS: sorry for my spaghetti code
Here is my alpha version:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OEinqEAVgFQMEaypm_p_UFI9Ytw4vJxw
I will be happy if you test it and give me feedback about usability and ergonomy. It is designed for laptop touch screens in my case 14". For different screen sizes will be necessary to create a different layouts. Browser is still shit and I have some questions and feedback to your work.
I tested your code. And I have some problems. I don't think so that the windowed version is a good way because that window doesn't have a fixed position. If you move with the browser next time when you start the VDj window is gone. Only factory reset helps to show the browser again.
I found that for drag and drop songs is necessary to show an Album art which is super stupid. But it looks that you found some solution how to hack that. Can you tell me more?
About features like sideview and playlists... My vision is to create a compact and small design without "bullshits". From my perspective the usability of original VDj skins is bad. And one thing which is responsible for that is the fact that the original design is created for everybody. But design for everybody doesn't exist! So you have tons of features combine with some mistakes in interaction design and the result is a mess. I don't need a mess I need a clear interface with grate usability for a specific group of DJs. But not everything is bad :D Is just grate that there is a possibility to create your own skin which will work for your use case. And this feature is there for everybody and that is awesome.
Anyway Is it possible to change the position of Artist, Title or other elements in the browser list? Original spacing and alignment are terrible...
Is there an action for reset root folders and show only music, video, karaoke? In that case, I will remove the original folder options button.
I dont know how to change colors in any custom browser elements. Its look that these syntaxes don't work for the custom browser. Because I changed only font or line spacing nothing more...
https://www.virtualdj.com/wiki/Skin%20Browser.html
I will be happy if you try some magic and help me "finish" it. Thx Karel
PS: sorry for my spaghetti code
Posted Mon 05 Aug 19 @ 11:04 pm
Nicotux
"quote=Holodroid]It is designed for laptop touch screens in my case 14". For different screen sizes will be necessary to create a different layouts[/quote"
Mine is allinone 23" maybe i get 3 browser columns instead of 2 no other layout seems needed
"quote=Holodroid]I don't think so that the windowed version is a good way because that window doesn't have a fixed position.[/quote"
I put code in a window for testing facilities - no new skin, simply addon on test one - just replace "window" with "panel" and you get a panel
"quote=Holodroid]I found that for drag and drop songs is necessary to show an Album art which is super stupid. But it looks that you found some solution how to hack that. Can you tell me more? [/quote"
Well... the hack is "pretty" simple in theory but have a very bad side effect:
The idea was to put a transparent button on top of filename with a click passthrough
The button action being to load the track in a temporary deck - say 42 - and showing the cover from this deck
and was only when not using internal browser
the side effect are :
You need to have a constant size and column count
while everything seems ok, the play counter is not updated and already played is not either
thus it is stupid also
but as far as you are using the standard browser you can use <cover source="browser">
or add the CoverArt column
"quote=Holodroid]Anyway Is it possible to change the position of Artist, Title or other elements in the browser list?[/quote"
You are using grid mode, I don't think its possible in this mode
"quote=Holodroid]Is there an action for reset root folders and show only music, video, karaoke? In that case, I will remove the original folder options button.[/quote"
You may not use <folderlist> but use your own button to change browser folder manually
"quote=Holodroid]I dont know how to change colors in any custom browser elements. Its look that these syntaxes don't work for the custom browser.[/quote"
maybe because you use grid mode grid have its own parameters
"quote=Holodroid]I will be happy if you try some magic and help me "finish" it. [/quote"
Who knows ... but it seems the season ended :/
Usability / ergonomy:
- remove the subfolder from the zip, it prevent the direct use of the skin in VDJ
- the play button moving from top to side is anoying
- sync ok, would be fine to be able to reset the pitch to original value
maybe play sync cue and pitch reset instead of cue
- A search options may be fine
- How to match beats ? headphone only :/ but no mix or volume for it
a little difficult to make a pre selection; plf & level/crossfader have to be set prior to pre-listen
browser related:
I got some long titles overwriting duration, just make its zone smaller
... and problems with resize making the window uggly and resize zone not accessible anymore
as a workaround ... i always make the resize zone almost the whole height
and
"quote="the Wiki]Note that in this case, it is strongly advised to set skin breakline and breakline2 in order to prevent issues when stretching the browser.[/quote"
- your filelist is too height and slider button and last line cut
and sometimes logo overlaps the artist and play button of deck left
I really don't know why two fingers scroll is not working
otherwhise its really simple,your round equalizer are working just fine just missed the reset/center function
I added the cover in the browser grid and play with it ... a too longtime
thus it is usable and friendly
Once finished it may be really fine
found it funny as i usualy use the opposite.. a 6 decks 8 video windows & OSD & floating pads and browser
Mine is allinone 23" maybe i get 3 browser columns instead of 2 no other layout seems needed
"quote=Holodroid]I don't think so that the windowed version is a good way because that window doesn't have a fixed position.[/quote"
I put code in a window for testing facilities - no new skin, simply addon on test one - just replace "window" with "panel" and you get a panel
"quote=Holodroid]I found that for drag and drop songs is necessary to show an Album art which is super stupid. But it looks that you found some solution how to hack that. Can you tell me more? [/quote"
Well... the hack is "pretty" simple in theory but have a very bad side effect:
The idea was to put a transparent button on top of filename with a click passthrough
The button action being to load the track in a temporary deck - say 42 - and showing the cover from this deck
and was only when not using internal browser
the side effect are :
You need to have a constant size and column count
while everything seems ok, the play counter is not updated and already played is not either
thus it is stupid also
but as far as you are using the standard browser you can use <cover source="browser">
or add the CoverArt column
"quote=Holodroid]Anyway Is it possible to change the position of Artist, Title or other elements in the browser list?[/quote"
You are using grid mode, I don't think its possible in this mode
"quote=Holodroid]Is there an action for reset root folders and show only music, video, karaoke? In that case, I will remove the original folder options button.[/quote"
You may not use <folderlist> but use your own button to change browser folder manually
"quote=Holodroid]I dont know how to change colors in any custom browser elements. Its look that these syntaxes don't work for the custom browser.[/quote"
maybe because you use grid mode grid have its own parameters
"quote=Holodroid]I will be happy if you try some magic and help me "finish" it. [/quote"
Who knows ... but it seems the season ended :/
Usability / ergonomy:
- remove the subfolder from the zip, it prevent the direct use of the skin in VDJ
- the play button moving from top to side is anoying
- sync ok, would be fine to be able to reset the pitch to original value
maybe play sync cue and pitch reset instead of cue
- A search options may be fine
- How to match beats ? headphone only :/ but no mix or volume for it
a little difficult to make a pre selection; plf & level/crossfader have to be set prior to pre-listen
browser related:
I got some long titles overwriting duration, just make its zone smaller
... and problems with resize making the window uggly and resize zone not accessible anymore
as a workaround ... i always make the resize zone almost the whole height
and
"quote="the Wiki]Note that in this case, it is strongly advised to set skin breakline and breakline2 in order to prevent issues when stretching the browser.[/quote"
- your filelist is too height and slider button and last line cut
and sometimes logo overlaps the artist and play button of deck left
I really don't know why two fingers scroll is not working
otherwhise its really simple,your round equalizer are working just fine just missed the reset/center function
I added the cover in the browser grid and play with it ... a too longtime
thus it is usable and friendly
Once finished it may be really fine
found it funny as i usualy use the opposite.. a 6 decks 8 video windows & OSD & floating pads and browser
Posted Tue 06 Aug 19 @ 2:55 am
Hi, thx for a feedback! I will use it later.
I have only a few points for now:
I understand why you think that play and sync button on right side is stupid. It is designed for 14" and with that layout you can play with cue, play and pitch with one hand. You can hold cue with thumb and press other functions with forefinger.
About manual sync with headphones. In the midle is a setting icon you can change volume and mix headphones also is there a master volume...
I have only a few points for now:
I understand why you think that play and sync button on right side is stupid. It is designed for 14" and with that layout you can play with cue, play and pitch with one hand. You can hold cue with thumb and press other functions with forefinger.
About manual sync with headphones. In the midle is a setting icon you can change volume and mix headphones also is there a master volume...
Posted Tue 06 Aug 19 @ 7:49 am
Holodroid
Hi,
Is it possible to change settings with actions?
For example change Equalizer from "default" to "full kill" when the skin is loaded?
Thx
Is it possible to change settings with actions?
For example change Equalizer from "default" to "full kill" when the skin is loaded?
Thx
Posted Wed 07 Aug 19 @ 5:10 pm
locoDog
setting "equalizerMode"
That will toggle but I can't fathom querying it for led feedback
That will toggle but I can't fathom querying it for led feedback
Posted Wed 07 Aug 19 @ 7:43 pm
Holodroid
Thx this syntax works:
setting equalizerMode 'Full Kill'
but how specific browserGridColumn? In the settings you can find something like this: file=alba,titl,arti,mix,bpm,
But I don't know how to change it. This example code doesn't work browserGridColumns 'titl'
setting equalizerMode 'Full Kill'
but how specific browserGridColumn? In the settings you can find something like this: file=alba,titl,arti,mix,bpm,
But I don't know how to change it. This example code doesn't work browserGridColumns 'titl'
Posted Wed 07 Aug 19 @ 8:10 pm
Nicotux
"quote=locodog]setting "equalizerMode"
That will toggle but I can't fathom querying it for led feedback[/quote"
Just for info: "setting" is another example of vdjscript verb ending the script
This script
setting equalizerMode 'Full Kill' ? on & setting equalizerMode 'Default' : off & setting equalizerMode 'Full Kill'
toggles setting and the led
but this one
setting equalizerMode 'Full Kill' ? setting equalizerMode 'Default' & on : setting equalizerMode 'Full Kill' & off
will toggle setting only :\
That will toggle but I can't fathom querying it for led feedback[/quote"
Just for info: "setting" is another example of vdjscript verb ending the script
This script
setting equalizerMode 'Full Kill' ? on & setting equalizerMode 'Default' : off & setting equalizerMode 'Full Kill'
toggles setting and the led
but this one
setting equalizerMode 'Full Kill' ? setting equalizerMode 'Default' & on : setting equalizerMode 'Full Kill' & off
will toggle setting only :\
Posted Fri 09 Aug 19 @ 12:15 am
