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Niiiiiiiice! A lot of work has gone into this no doubt. Good job dev's and team!
 
Posted Wed 25 Sep 13 @ 12:41 pm
Great Work, wonderful features....*thumps up* !!!!
 
no audio?
 
Will all this work on MAC book pro's or LE for macbooks
 
Where is the main new promised feature of the VDJ 8 - timeline editing mode?
 
Changing the tempo of a track.

Does this mean if I have a song "The Whispers - And the beat goes on" for example. Where the tempo changes through the song, I can effectly quantize the song, so that I have a consistant tempo.
 
Also missed timeline feature.
Thumbs up for new timecode engine.
 
Wheres is the audio? Video has no sound??
 
djservices wrote :
I can effectly quantize the song, so that I have a consistant tempo.


That would be nice, wouldn't it? It's about time DJ software was capable of doing this.

I'm sure many DJs use Ableton Live purely for that feature, because in other respects it sucks for DJ use. If warping was available in VDJ then those guys could "dump the DAW" and use software that has more DJ friendly features.

 
All good one question, when?
 
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Why can't I level posts?
 
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synthet1c, that's not warping - that's a flexible beat grid.

Yes I replied to those posts, but please note that I'm not saying "Yay! Fantastic! Warping is coming!". I'm actually pointing out that flexible beat grids are not the same thing, and questioning their choice.

I asked a question here on the first page too, which never got answered.

FYI the flexible beat grid (FBG) method adjusts the beat grid lines to fit the variables in a track. The track stays the same (unsteady), the beat grid changes (from steady to unsteady).

Warping on the other hand adjusts the track. Big difference! The beat grid stays fixed (steady tempo) and the track audio is adjusted (straightened) to align with the fixed grid.


(I've also found a post from you in reply to someone asking for flexible beat grids, where you said they're asking too much!)
 
if the only difference between warping and a flexible beatgrid is recording it, then yes what you're saying is true, but I have faith that the devs are smart enough to implement the physics that will stretch the track to a perfect grid. All you would need to do it is have the grid set properly, then the software can determine the acceleration and deceleration the track needs to travel between the two points smoothly at a constant bpm. I said it was asking "too much" before I understood anything about the physics involved. Also the "too much" refers to the amount of time it would take to set each marker individually. It took me about 30 minutes to get an old live track perfect in ableton.
 
This is why I was trying to determine how they've implemented it.

IMO it's better to correct wonky tracks to a steady beat than to "wonky up" the CBG to fit an uneven track.

Say for example you've just loaded up a wonky track and "flexed" the beat grid to match it (so the beat grid is then unsteady). When that's the master track and you try and slave a modern "fixed BPM" track to it, that'll presumably mean that the previously steady modern track has to itself become wonky in order to mix. Doesn't make sense to me.
 
the track would lock to the bpm you set it at, you could just average all the different bpm's throughout the track and the pitch fader position to determine the speed it will play. It wouldn't matter if it was the master or even if no other deck was playing. VDJ already deals with physics to control the speed of the track with the pitch fader and the key correction, this would just introduce a couple more numbers to crunch. I don't think this is asking too much of the devs, but it is still too much for setting each track if VDJ's algorithm gets it wrong, it would be an extremely difficult thing to get perfect for every style of music as different genre's use different frequencies for the same types of sounds.
 
Sometimes ya just gotta keep it old school and ride the pitch, lol!!
 
What laptop is that?

I'm curious to what the recommended PC speccs are going to be...

/Klaus
 
In the 2013 video its a Clevo P150HM. Quad core i7, GTX560M, 16Gb RAM.
 
Yikes....
 
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