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Topic: Wrong Sync - Fat Dots and Thin Dots

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Hello,

Sometimes, when I fail to manualy match the fat dots, I click the sync button so the beat is sync..

But, nontheless the fats dot of the two tracks are close, the sync makes a fat dot match with a thin dot.

This happens only sometimes, but can ruin my mixtape\dj set.

I don't want this to happen, what can I do to to fix it ?

Tks
 
Posted Mon 30 Nov 09 @ 5:53 pm

You mean when you press play it "jumps" to the "wrong" beat?

or do you miss the beat yourself?
 
It jumps to the wrong beat, quite fast and noisy.
 
I have experienced this issue on many occassions, but only recently worked out how to solve it.

The first thing you need to understand is, no matter how good the analyser is in VDJ it will never be perfect or will it be able to adapt to all genres of music. One thing I have definately noticed is that tracks with "real" drummers have beats that will drift. Computerisd beats, as in most modern dance music, will keep perfect time.

It is still possible for VDJ to get things slightly mixed up: a long intro for example.

Here are two things that can help:

1. If you are not comfortable with the BPM then manually tap it out. If you get it close, you can then manually edit it until you get this correct.

2. If the first beat is not where you expect it to be (ie. the big block is in the wrong place), cue the track to the first beat and while paused hit the manual BPM once. This will move the markers to align with that cue point.

I have done this both while at a gig and in advance when adding new tracks and updating my database, so it ins't that time consuming nor is it painstaking.

Hope this helps,

Roy
 
I'm sorry, what to do you mean with tap it out ?

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It would suppose to be easy, i just want the fat dots to be aligned when they are already close to each other..Not jump to the other beat :\
 
Dj in norway, did you posted an deleted ?
 
theboywho wrote :
I'm sorry, what to do you mean with tap it out ?

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It would suppose to be easy, i just want the fat dots to be aligned when they are already close to each other..Not jump to the other beat :\


On your skin there should be a button marked BPM, every time you hit that when a track is playing it like counting the BPM in your head (those were the days - 30 beats in 15 seconds 120BPM). Anyway I digress...

If your tracks are not aligning when you sync, it's more that likely that the blocks are not in time with the beat - the wave form is a good give away. If the peaks and blocks don't align you have issues!

That's where the techniques above come in to play.

Using this example, use my 2nd tip. Cue the track to the first beat and while the track is paused. Hit the BPM button once. This will align the existing dots with the peak you have just queued. The remaining dots should then fall in to line.

If they don't then the BPM is incorrect and you can either re-analyse or manually tap it out.

Finally, VDJ will sync to the nearest block - regardless of size. So you may end up off beat, use the jog wheels or pitch bend to bring the dots closer together, then sync.

Hopefully this makes sense now,

Roy
 
I will try that.

Thank you :)
 
Also remember that you can read between the lines so to speak.
a a a a a a a a a a a a a
a a a a a a a a a a a a a
Althought this looks odd, it syncs. In some cases this will work. Use the nudge or pitch wheels to accomplish this. Also note that the blocks might be further apart but they can still sync
i i i i i i i i
i 1 i 2 i 3 i 4 i 5 i 6 i 7 i

Dont want to confuse but this is the only way i could explain with out a snap shot.
 
Discard my post I did not present it that way. Sorry;{
 
lol.

Tks anyway.
 


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