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Well, after reading this earlier I broke my LPs and tables out of storage. I need more beer and two copies of Smooth Criminal on 12" STAT!!!
 
A Man and His Music wrote :
Let me go change my shoes, because I can see I'm going to be kicking a lot of stools from under a lot of DJs.



OK I'm back, who's first? Wait, I have a bench, so I can do three of you at a time. See how technology works, from a stool to a bench.


Man, You got me rolling! But I will tell you this, My gold Techs aren't going anywhere. Thanks Technice for pointing us in the right direction for all these years. Bet you no other media will outlast vinyl or the turntable. Everything now is just hit & miss. Someone has to get it right sooner or later. Oh yea, It would help if the calliber of music was better. But oh, Why put a lot of effort into making good music if everyone will just download it for free? OK, I'm done.
 
Hey Jeff

I hear ya. But just for the "record", Technics didn't point us in the right direction. We chose them. When the 1200 first came out it was no more that a HIFI turntable and was surpassed for outright sound quality a long time ago. Technics got it right by accident. It was DJ's who saw the potential in this bomb proof beast and Technics have enjoyed a very long run because of that.

Even if they do stop making them they are going to be around for a long time yet. You just can't break em.

Times move on but as with anything there will allways be a core of enthusiasts that will keep the candle burning. Wether you agree with what they choose to do is another subject.

I wouldn't say thanks to Technics. They have had the money for several sets of 1200s/1210s out of my wallet so they should be thanking us, but would always say thanks to the DJ's who discovered just how good a deck the 1200 is.

No tears being shed but lots of memorys.

Daz
 
I agree with you Daz.
 
BTW

TearEmUp.

Still got 2 copies of New Order Bue Monday on 12". I seem to remember learning how to beat match with them. Allong with Blondie Rapture and anything Grandmaster Flashy I could get hold of at the time.

Ohhhh yehhhh, the dissapearing hairline is showing itself now for shure. Cue the music for the Hovis advert. LOL

Daz
 
I'm an old CDJ user, I used CDJ 500's back in the 90's however I think the current CDJ are just boring. Yeah they work ok but jesus christ how did something so boring become industry standard? to be honest I just bypass with my RMX now (How sad is that)

At least Denon are making good player that are fun to use, I had a pair of 5000's and they were great.

CDJ's just had good marketing I saw that at Plasa the first year they were introduced, have to say they didn't get much interest at first as they didn't have a moving platter. Got to be honest though I preferred the technics that day as cut mater swift was scratching it up on em big time.
 
I find it strange how this thread is starting to turn from "Death of SL-1200's" to "Death of vinyl", which are two totally different things.

I think it's safe to say that vinyl has been dead for some time now - obviously on the mainstream, but also in the DJ industry. IMHO there's nothing to miss about vinyls as a storage medium. Records collecting dust, grease, scratches, needles worn, skipping, hissing, whatever.

The only good thing about vinyl was the physical feel about playing them, and that's what timecode vinyls are all about. That's why I find it suprising that there would not be demand for SL-1200's anymore. Disregarding the fact that the existing SL-1200's are going to last for decades, I just don't see all the Serato/Traktor Scratch/Virtual Vinyl/whatever TCV guys migrating to CDJ's.

Even with the limited feature set, I can see how TCV makes sense to people who like the vinyl feel. To be honest, I never quite understood the point of TCCD - it's like worst of both worlds. You can't get the vinyl feel OR the ability to control every single function of the software from the controller. For this reason I actually skipped the whole CD-jockey phase, I migrated straight from vinyl to digital.
 
Hi Auralcandy

I don't find it all that surpprising they are looking at stopping. So many other companies are now making turntables which match and surpass the 1200s performance (I know its a matter of opinion but it just happens to be mine) that the already small market has become much smaller. Matsushita, The Technics brand owner are a massive company so at some point someone in the company probably just worked out that it costs them more to make the 1200 than they are willing to continue spending for what must be peanuts in return based on sales.

Strangely vinyl is actualy picking up alot of interest again. Not in the DJing world ,which kept it going for so long but in the hifi market. You only have to pick up a copy of What HIFI to see the number of companies not just continuing with old lines but bringing out new models. This is happening allongside specialist companies buying up and re-commisioning vinyl pressing equipment.

Don't get me wrong there is not a vinyl revolution going on, but it is a format that stubbornly refused to die.

I would love to see a 1200 based deck with no arm and some form of encoded vinyl disc (magnetic or optical for example) that did not rely on a stylus to pick up the timecode signal. What I dont get is why none of the digital units out there have a full 12" platter. I don't think you can replicate a vinyl deck without it. All the fun of vinyl with the feel you want and no skipping. It can't be that hard.

Daz
 
Don't worry guys, if you're missing them you can catch them here;

"The turntables have been around for more than 35 years, and are featured in the London museum of Science and Technology as an important step in how music has been played and presented over the last century"

.........or I'll sell you mine, when the price inevitably goes up! :-)
 
Daz,

Check out the Numark CDX, they did and were the only one's to do a full size 12" without a tone arm. I have used these before and thought they were great however you'll get people coming up saying "can't you afford CDJ's" funny when I had a pair sat at home that I never took out because I was bored of them.
 
Hi Charlie.

Cheers

Didn't get the pick but i know the CDX. Never played on them tho.

I assume you would need to use these with TCCD if you wanted to hook them up to VDJ?

Daz
 
Even though technics will stop making turntables, The world is flooded with many of them. Many sell them and its passed on to the next person for many more years of use. As long as Interfaces are available, Turntables & CDJs will still be seen in big major clubs.
 
They stopped making the Model T Ford too, but I'm sure we are still driving something right? lol I don't care how good any brand of turntable is frankly. You will never catch me lugging them or vinyl around EVER again.

I still have nightmares from a wedding I did about 18 years ago in the pouring rain, lugging my equipment (& yes a pair of 1200's) up a four flight fire escape (which was the shortest route up to the room) along with 6 recycling bins full of records.

RIP 1200's you will not be that "SORELY" missed by me!
 
There is STILL no offical work but it appears more and more like this was a rumor or a misunderstanding created by phasing out different models.


I'll hold off for now... but i have my "i told you so" sample cued. ;)
 
A Man and His Music wrote :
Let me go change my shoes, because I can see I'm going to be kicking a lot of stools from under a lot of DJs.

OK I'm back, who's first? Wait, I have a bench, so I can do three of you at a time. See how technology works, from a stool to a bench.


PMSL!!!!

Yes it's a sad day, but you're right. If they kept making "everything" there would be no progress and we'd all probably be mixing on wind-up gramaphones!!!

Hold on to your 1200's/1210's they are probably gonna be worth more than your house or pension fund.

I love mine to bits, but if the price was right...

Cheers,

Roy
 
I still have my original 1300's, the forerunner to the 1200's...the ones with the wood grain around the base and the digital display and buttons you pushed to increase/decrease the pitch (imagine no pitch slider!). I bought mine used in 1982 when I started doing clubs. They quit making those in 1970 I was told...still work fantastic after 39 years!

I remember when my first set of 1200 was $400 BRAND NEW for the pair! Did music videos on VHS tape from 1983-1989. I remember when I switched to the cdj500's in 1995 (had serial numbers 11 and 12)....never looked back on carrying vinyl again. I remember when in 1998 I switched to SL1200PC (the software that eventually became PCDJ) and a laptop, not quite right but I saw the future and started ripping all CDs and recording all vinyl to wav. I then discovered BPM Studio in 1999 and NEVER looked back on Cd' or Vinyl. Digital Djing was just too good and the potential too great.

I have Dj'd with virtually every media/equipment combination out there and NEVER has it been so easy to be creative, so economical and so portable. I can hardly wait for the 3-d holographic Virtual Dj....just bring in your Iphone or BlackBerry 2015, put it in hologram projector mode, turn it on, select the Dj set-up you want and POOF, displayed right in front of you the dream dj setup of your choice, touch sensitive, full color and full tactile feel with an unlimited selection of music videos projected in 3-d holograms in the room for the customers to interact with.......I would stave off retirement to participate in that!

Come young one, put the 1200's in the museum with the Muscle Car, The Spitfire Fighter, The Steam Locomotive, The Telegraph and the Victrola....come to the brave new world and see the glory of digital!
 
 


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