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Topic: No longer possible to access 16 samples from controllers with 8 x 2 pads? - Page: 1
In previous VDJ versions I could add 16 samples to a bank and access all of them from the two banks of 8 pads on my controllers. Samples 1-8 on the left side and samples 9-16 on the right.

In the new EA with "sampler 2" both sets of pads only show the first 8 samples.

Is there any way to access all 16 samples from the controller pads?
 
Posted Sun 24 Nov 24 @ 4:49 pm
The default Sampler Pad page has the 2nd Parameter to scroll through the sub-pages
So now you have the ability to control more than 8 samples from the same Deck, or if you still prefer to have them split across the Decks (as it was in previous versions), set Param 2 to 9 to 16 on the other Deck.

If you dont get it working like that, Reset the page from the Editor
 
OK yes it needed a reset to see param 2, but there's still something not right.

Although the bank has 16 samples (on pads 1-16) the sampler pads on the decks have blanks, which don't trigger anything.

 
I'm noticing some of my video clips don't play from the pads either. If I open the sample editor they play there, but not when triggered from the pad.
 
Can you post the content of your bank XML file here ?
 
I just tested with the new year sample pack which has worked previously and some of the samples just freeze at the start.
 
djdad wrote :
Can you post the content of your bank XML file here ?


Here's the VJ 1 XML (the one with the gaps)

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<samplerbank>
	<sample path="astronaut-dance-disco.vdjsample" filesize="288388274" col="2" row="0" />
	<sample path="aquarium.vdjsample" filesize="42249825" col="3" row="0" />
	<sample path="Dancing 29.vdjsample" filesize="21246868" col="5" row="0" />
	<sample path="Dancing 08.vdjsample" filesize="22082204" col="6" row="0" />
	<sample path="Dancing 27.vdjsample" filesize="28059297" col="8" row="0" />
	<sample path="Dancing 14.vdjsample" filesize="14546875" col="9" row="0" />
	<sample path="Dancing 12.vdjsample" filesize="10459723" col="10" row="0" />
	<sample path="Dancing 28.vdjsample" filesize="29643762" col="11" row="0" />
	<sample path="lucky-cat-1.vdjsample" filesize="87694115" col="12" row="0" />
	<sample path="lucky-cat-2.vdjsample" filesize="97154295" col="13" row="0" />
	<sample path="Butterfly Overlay 1.vdjsample" filesize="14666518" col="14" row="0" />
	<sample path="Butterfly Overlay 2.vdjsample" filesize="21141205" col="15" row="0" />
	<sample path="owl head.vdjsample" filesize="958187" col="16" row="0" />
	<sample path="bird bob.vdjsample" filesize="3611663" col="17" row="0" />
	<sample path="skunk dance.vdjsample" filesize="1731951" col="18" row="0" />
	<sample path="daffy swivel.vdjsample" filesize="377009" col="19" row="0" />
</samplerbank>


I guess the columns/rows are wrong? Looking at the XML of another bank, that uses slot and col.
 
well, judging from the col/row values, it makes sense to have "gaps" in your matrix.
If you edit your XML and have col=0 to col=15 to your samples, pretty sure you will get the desired pads layout.
 
The issue with some Video samples will be fixed in next update
 
djdad wrote :
The issue with some Video samples will be fixed in next update


Wonderful. Thank you!
 
djdad wrote :
edit your XML and have col=0 to col=15


Thanks, I'll do that. Not sure how it ended up this way though.

EDIT: Something's still not right. Take this example...

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<samplerbank>
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\Techno in E.vdjsample" filesize="76804" color="cyan" col="0" row="1" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\Dembow 1.vdjsample" filesize="57581" color="cyan" col="0" row="2" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\Rhythm 3.vdjsample" filesize="42976" color="cyan" col="0" row="3" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\Dembow 2.vdjsample" filesize="88721" color="cyan" col="0" row="4" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\Rhythm 5.vdjsample" filesize="60814" color="cyan" col="0" row="5" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\Rhythm 6.vdjsample" filesize="54935" color="cyan" col="0" row="6" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\Rhythm 7.vdjsample" filesize="43246" color="cyan" col="0" row="7" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\Dembow 3.vdjsample" filesize="57570" color="cyan" col="0" row="8" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\Dembow 4.vdjsample" filesize="60065" color="cyan" col="0" row="9" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\G plain beat.vdjsample" filesize="40063" color="cyan" col="0" row="10" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\C minor riff.vdjsample" filesize="36390" color="cyan" col="0" row="11" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\G minor riff Laurent Konrad.vdjsample" filesize="47505" color="cyan" col="0" row="12" />
</samplerbank>


The samples display like this:
 
Ok, we ll add some "smart" system to convert the old row/col to slot="x" without gaps.
In the meantime, you can add slot="0" to slot="n" to your samples to get them working in VDJ 2025
 
On the subject of sampler, previously on my DDJ XP2 I was able to access 32 samples. now however only available to access 16 samples duplicated over 32 pads.
pictures provided shows 32 samples but the highlighted yellow samples is the last sample playable from the XP2. Second pic shows XP2 16 samples duplicated over 32 pads with the same yellow sample highlighted.
I am sure it's an easy fix on another update, meanwhile I will have to re install the previous build.
 
You'll need sampler_pad_page +1 on the second deck to cycle to the next samples
 
Adion wrote :
You'll need sampler_pad_page +1 on the second deck to cycle to the next samples
Thanks for the response, I'll look into it
 
next build (that should be available in EarlyAccess later today) has a samplerSpanAcrossDecks that when set to yes, automatically set deck2 to 9-16 when your bank has more than 8 samples
 
Excellent, thanks Stephane!

Has the sample pack video clip issue (some clips not playing) also been addressed?
 
I have a problem with triggering samples, with banks that have more than 8 pads if playing a track on deck A triggering samples on the 8 deck A player side match the speed as I change it, but triggering the remanding pads on deck B does not respond to speed changes
 
Isn't this just a case of col and row being the wrong way round?

groovindj wrote :

EDIT: Something's still not right. Take this example...

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<samplerbank>
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\Techno in E.vdjsample" filesize="76804" color="cyan" col="0" row="1" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\Dembow 1.vdjsample" filesize="57581" color="cyan" col="0" row="2" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\Rhythm 3.vdjsample" filesize="42976" color="cyan" col="0" row="3" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\Dembow 2.vdjsample" filesize="88721" color="cyan" col="0" row="4" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\Rhythm 5.vdjsample" filesize="60814" color="cyan" col="0" row="5" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\Rhythm 6.vdjsample" filesize="54935" color="cyan" col="0" row="6" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\Rhythm 7.vdjsample" filesize="43246" color="cyan" col="0" row="7" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\Dembow 3.vdjsample" filesize="57570" color="cyan" col="0" row="8" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\Dembow 4.vdjsample" filesize="60065" color="cyan" col="0" row="9" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\G plain beat.vdjsample" filesize="40063" color="cyan" col="0" row="10" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\C minor riff.vdjsample" filesize="36390" color="cyan" col="0" row="11" />
	<sample path="Rhythm Pack 8\G minor riff Laurent Konrad.vdjsample" filesize="47505" color="cyan" col="0" row="12" />
</samplerbank>


The samples display like this:
 
If they're the wrong way round, I didn't put them there. Just having slots makes more sense I think.
 
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