djdutschi
locodog wrote :
tried c&p the working <effects> entry on to the old
I get 2 options echo and spiral, the drop down head reads "delay" (these fx live in a custom folder called "delay" and there're the only colour fx in the my delay folder, moving up a folder leads to a blank popup as pic'd above) Leads me to believe that custom folders for fx aren't playing nice with colourfx
Not bad fault finding gentlemen.
I get 2 options echo and spiral, the drop down head reads "delay" (these fx live in a custom folder called "delay" and there're the only colour fx in the my delay folder, moving up a folder leads to a blank popup as pic'd above) Leads me to believe that custom folders for fx aren't playing nice with colourfx
Not bad fault finding gentlemen.
Thats Right , thats I say in Post before ;-)
When Effects sorted to Folders , the Color can't find these , that should be fixed.
And in the bevore Build 4720 I can use all Effects as Color (also VSTs and other).
And I can open the Gui for all Effects when I need this , in 4720 with my Skin.
I think thats shold be fixed .
Posted Thu 17 Jan 19 @ 8:09 pm
djdutschi
Hello everybody.
Here again the error described in more detail.
And an example how it worked in my skin before with version 4720.
It's about the Color FX in the new Early Accesess Update.
The following, I have months ago, the Color FX intgriert in my skin.
This also works great up to version 4720.
The following script is created in the skin.
This will toggle between Filter or ColorFX, similar to leg block Skin by DJ Dad.
You can see the filter label in the text (as a button) and reset it with a click.
And if Color FX is on, then you can see the effect label there and activate the ColorFX.
And the GUI opens when the ColorFX is active.
You can also choose up to version 4720 each effect as Color FX, including VST effects.
And if you switch to filter, then also below the button is the text (filter), as long as you do not move the slider.
Here I give my script as an example:
<group name="knobb" x="+0" y="+323">
<panel class="knobb" visibility="var '@$mixercolor' 0">
<slider action="filter" dblclick="filter 50%" rightclick="temporary" />
<slider action="filter" dblclick="filter 50%" rightclick="temporary" frommiddle="true"/>
<textzone><text action="filter_label"/></textzone>
</panel>
<panel class="knobb" visibility="var '@$mixercolor' 1">
<slider action="effect_colorslider 'colorfx'" dblclick="effect_colorslider 'colorfx' 50%" tooltip="COLOR FX"/>
<slider action="effect_colorslider 'colorfx'" dblclick="effect_colorslider 'colorfx' 50%" tooltip="COLOR FX" frommiddle="true"/>
<textzone action="effect_active 'colorfx' & effect_colorslider 'colorfx' 50% & effect_show_gui 'colorfx'" rightclick="effect_select 'colorfx'"><tooltip>LC: Color FX Active/RC: Select Color FX</tooltip>
<text action="get effect_name 'colorfx'" scroll="yes"/>
</textzone>
</panel>
</group>
Now the problem with the update 4742.
Just to explain it again.
1.
In the new update 4742 the Color FX is integrated in the Viertual DJ.
Only if one selects there an effect, this remains also in the text under the button, even if one uses the filter and no Color FX.
Unfortunately, this is also the case with my skin.
2.
Unfortunately, you can only select a specific number and type of effects, in version 4720 I could use all the effects as color FX, including VSTs.
3.
Furthermore there are no effects in the dropdown menu in the list, if you have sorted its effects in folders.
This means Virtual DJ finds only the Color Effect if they are in the main folder.
I have now reset to version 4720.
Since the Color FX worked well there in my skin.
And unfortunately not anymore with the new update.
I hope the mistake is now explained more understandable.
And one can see by my script of my skin a good example how it worked in the version 4720 with me, without error.
GretinGreetings Dani
PS: If someone wants to have my skin as an example please report to me.
The button to switch I have specially created in the skin, similar to the block skin of DJ DAD.
Here again the error described in more detail.
And an example how it worked in my skin before with version 4720.
It's about the Color FX in the new Early Accesess Update.
The following, I have months ago, the Color FX intgriert in my skin.
This also works great up to version 4720.
The following script is created in the skin.
This will toggle between Filter or ColorFX, similar to leg block Skin by DJ Dad.
You can see the filter label in the text (as a button) and reset it with a click.
And if Color FX is on, then you can see the effect label there and activate the ColorFX.
And the GUI opens when the ColorFX is active.
You can also choose up to version 4720 each effect as Color FX, including VST effects.
And if you switch to filter, then also below the button is the text (filter), as long as you do not move the slider.
Here I give my script as an example:
<group name="knobb" x="+0" y="+323">
<panel class="knobb" visibility="var '@$mixercolor' 0">
<slider action="filter" dblclick="filter 50%" rightclick="temporary" />
<slider action="filter" dblclick="filter 50%" rightclick="temporary" frommiddle="true"/>
<textzone><text action="filter_label"/></textzone>
</panel>
<panel class="knobb" visibility="var '@$mixercolor' 1">
<slider action="effect_colorslider 'colorfx'" dblclick="effect_colorslider 'colorfx' 50%" tooltip="COLOR FX"/>
<slider action="effect_colorslider 'colorfx'" dblclick="effect_colorslider 'colorfx' 50%" tooltip="COLOR FX" frommiddle="true"/>
<textzone action="effect_active 'colorfx' & effect_colorslider 'colorfx' 50% & effect_show_gui 'colorfx'" rightclick="effect_select 'colorfx'"><tooltip>LC: Color FX Active/RC: Select Color FX</tooltip>
<text action="get effect_name 'colorfx'" scroll="yes"/>
</textzone>
</panel>
</group>
Now the problem with the update 4742.
Just to explain it again.
1.
In the new update 4742 the Color FX is integrated in the Viertual DJ.
Only if one selects there an effect, this remains also in the text under the button, even if one uses the filter and no Color FX.
Unfortunately, this is also the case with my skin.
2.
Unfortunately, you can only select a specific number and type of effects, in version 4720 I could use all the effects as color FX, including VSTs.
3.
Furthermore there are no effects in the dropdown menu in the list, if you have sorted its effects in folders.
This means Virtual DJ finds only the Color Effect if they are in the main folder.
I have now reset to version 4720.
Since the Color FX worked well there in my skin.
And unfortunately not anymore with the new update.
I hope the mistake is now explained more understandable.
And one can see by my script of my skin a good example how it worked in the version 4720 with me, without error.
GretinGreetings Dani
PS: If someone wants to have my skin as an example please report to me.
The button to switch I have specially created in the skin, similar to the block skin of DJ DAD.
Posted Sat 19 Jan 19 @ 8:56 am
Adion
If you want color fx to work like in 4720 you should use a different slot than colorfx. The colorfx slot is indeed limited to plugins that are verified to work correctly as colorfx.
To use the colorfx slot you should now also use the filter_ actions instead
To use the colorfx slot you should now also use the filter_ actions instead
Posted Sat 19 Jan 19 @ 9:36 am
djdutschi
Adion wrote :
If you want color fx to work like in 4720 you should use a different slot than colorfx. The colorfx slot is indeed limited to plugins that are verified to work correctly as colorfx.
To use the colorfx slot you should now also use the filter_ actions instead
To use the colorfx slot you should now also use the filter_ actions instead
Sorry , I can't understand this.
In 4720 the Color work great , but in the New Update no more.
Why make a good working Funtion to a Funtion thats no more works?
Virtual DJ find no Plugins , The Text shows a Color FX when the Filter is there , Users can't see is Filter or Color in use.....
In the Original Skin cant toggle from Filer to Color FX....
And now Cant Update to new Version , because than my Skin thans many work , no more works correct :-(
And Why Limited to FXs ? User should can change which Plugins they will use...
Sorry thats not good.
Nice Weekend
PS: I have a different Option for Color FX in my Skin , I can toggle from Filter to Color with a Button , its extra Panel , You see this in my example.. ;-)
Works better , I can Change when I will Use Color or Filter ;-)
I can send you my skin than you can see this and test it with 4720 , than you can see that better works ;-)
Posted Sat 19 Jan 19 @ 9:58 am
djcel
Code of plugins need to be changed/adapted to be compatible with colorfx. By 'limited', Adion meant compatible list of plugins.
Regression tests are done before a release but it's not possible to cover everything with the high level of customization of VirtualDJ (skins,...). That's why Atomix offers different types of updates of VirtualDJ (from 3 to 4 levels) in order to let customers give feebacks and offer a stable official release. It's an Agile approach (where customers feebacks are important and taken into account) and it offers VirtualDJ releases more often.
Regression tests are done before a release but it's not possible to cover everything with the high level of customization of VirtualDJ (skins,...). That's why Atomix offers different types of updates of VirtualDJ (from 3 to 4 levels) in order to let customers give feebacks and offer a stable official release. It's an Agile approach (where customers feebacks are important and taken into account) and it offers VirtualDJ releases more often.
Posted Sun 20 Jan 19 @ 4:54 am
Adion
It should also be very easy to update your skin to the old behavior.
Just change 'colorfx' to 4 to use slot 4 instead of the dedicated color fx slot.
In the default color fx slot only approved color fx are shown, since it does not work well with all effects. (For those not explicitly compatible, it will just use parameter 1, but that will depend on the effect if it actually does anything meaningful)
That the effect list is empty when the default effects had been moved to sub-folders was indeed a bug, and that will be fixed in the next update.
Just change 'colorfx' to 4 to use slot 4 instead of the dedicated color fx slot.
In the default color fx slot only approved color fx are shown, since it does not work well with all effects. (For those not explicitly compatible, it will just use parameter 1, but that will depend on the effect if it actually does anything meaningful)
That the effect list is empty when the default effects had been moved to sub-folders was indeed a bug, and that will be fixed in the next update.
Posted Sun 20 Jan 19 @ 5:29 am
djdutschi
Adion wrote :
It should also be very easy to update your skin to the old behavior.
Just change 'colorfx' to 4 to use slot 4 instead of the dedicated color fx slot.
In the default color fx slot only approved color fx are shown, since it does not work well with all effects. (For those not explicitly compatible, it will just use parameter 1, but that will depend on the effect if it actually does anything meaningful)
That the effect list is empty when the default effects had been moved to sub-folders was indeed a bug, and that will be fixed in the next update.
Just change 'colorfx' to 4 to use slot 4 instead of the dedicated color fx slot.
In the default color fx slot only approved color fx are shown, since it does not work well with all effects. (For those not explicitly compatible, it will just use parameter 1, but that will depend on the effect if it actually does anything meaningful)
That the effect list is empty when the default effects had been moved to sub-folders was indeed a bug, and that will be fixed in the next update.
Yes , the effect , thats Virtual DJ not found Plugins when sorted in Other Folders is real a Bug , that I I know...
The other is , when I toggle to Filter , the Label shows not Filter when the Slider is at 12oClock , the keeps the Name from the Color FX... The must when I have Filter in Use the Text Label shown that i have Filter in use.
To the Limited what You say , I have many othe Plugins they fine with the Color FX ... Many more.. That I have in Use , also VSTs , and good other Virtual DJ Effects...
You may not be able to use all the effects there, but much more ...
And I have already tested a lot of them, which are just wonderful as a live effect ... That find me a pity.
Well, if you mean to limit something that users could decide and test on the individual, even though it was already working great, then I can't change that.
Posted Sun 20 Jan 19 @ 12:59 pm
djdutschi
Ohhh, now I've found another bug.
If the color FX is activated, the limiter will not work.
I can turn up the gain fully and nothing happens ...
If the color FX is activated, the limiter will not work.
I can turn up the gain fully and nothing happens ...
Posted Mon 21 Jan 19 @ 1:33 am
Adion
Any specific effect this happens to?
What do you mean nothing happens? Do you get clipping?
What do you mean nothing happens? Do you get clipping?
Posted Mon 21 Jan 19 @ 6:42 am
djdutschi
Adion wrote :
Any specific effect this happens to?
What do you mean nothing happens? Do you get clipping?
What do you mean nothing happens? Do you get clipping?
No not specific effect , bei all effect in Color FX , wenn activated.
Wenn I turn off a Color FX then the Limiter works normal.
With nothing happen I mean , than the Limiter do nothing than ;-) ( Sorry its the Translater from Google :-( )
Test it ;-) Activate a Color FX , make the gain full on , and You see the Limiter not Works (Limiter Indicator not blink) , than turn the Color FX off (deactivate it) and do the same , and you will see , the Limiter works how ever ;-) Have test it with many Color FX...
Ohh and there is the also the Problem , that the Slider from the Flanger moves directly fast to 100% wenn I move the Color Slider..
Posted Mon 21 Jan 19 @ 4:33 pm
DjYayay2014
Since we are talking about the possibilities of activating the ColorFx with the available sound effects, you could consider how to associate these effects with video effects.
I'm waiting for my man ..
I'm waiting for my man ..
Posted Mon 21 Jan 19 @ 11:05 pm
the SOUND INSURGENT
DjYayay2014 wrote :
you could consider how to associate these effects with video effects.
This!! I would love to see this happen as well!!
Posted Tue 22 Jan 19 @ 2:03 am
djdutschi
Adion wrote :
It should also be very easy to update your skin to the old behavior.
Just change 'colorfx' to 4 to use slot 4 instead of the dedicated color fx slot.
In the default color fx slot only approved color fx are shown, since it does not work well with all effects. (For those not explicitly compatible, it will just use parameter 1, but that will depend on the effect if it actually does anything meaningful)
That the effect list is empty when the default effects had been moved to sub-folders was indeed a bug, and that will be fixed in the next update.
Just change 'colorfx' to 4 to use slot 4 instead of the dedicated color fx slot.
In the default color fx slot only approved color fx are shown, since it does not work well with all effects. (For those not explicitly compatible, it will just use parameter 1, but that will depend on the effect if it actually does anything meaningful)
That the effect list is empty when the default effects had been moved to sub-folders was indeed a bug, and that will be fixed in the next update.
Have fix it , that the ColorFX select find the Effects from Subfolders , when they are sorted?
And have You test it the Limiter not works by Color FX?
Greeting Dani
Posted Wed 30 Jan 19 @ 3:43 pm