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Backspin can be seen as just a mistake when heard by those not used to the sound.
A manager of a venue asked me to stop when she realized I was doing it on purpose.

Yet ..on Saturday night I had a request for Chaka Khan and played Ain't Nobody but I was told they wanted I Feel For You.
No problem.
At the end of the first verse I back-spun out of Ain't Nobody and brought in the intro of I Feel For You.. Chaka Khan, Chaka, Chaka Khan, ect.
That mistake seemed to make things better, they loved it!

..but it 's no good using backspin if some people think it's a mistake, or just don't like the sound.

Comments.
 
Posted Mon 03 Oct 16 @ 4:56 pm
Can be used in certain circumstances for a "chop" mix to great effect but using it too often makes you look like a dick basically.

Same problem with certain samples like air horns for example.
 
In the pub where the manager asked me to stop I organized a hands up vote. Only a few people liked the backspin.

Another point..if your going to do a backspin then use your jog wheels.
People want to see you doing things.
Pressing an effects button is almost pathetic.

Headphones are another thing, having set your cue point, and played a song many, many times it may still be wise to check the mix even though you don't need to, people are watching!
Hm..appearance boo hiss.
 
Not at all. No-one cares what you press or how you get the music out.

People might stare at Tiesto & Guetta pretending to play a set from a flash drive but I doubt anyone pays any attention whatsoever to what we do.
 
WHEN I do backspins, I do them on beatmatched tracks as follows:
1. Bring the new track in,
2. Fade the old track slowly
3. When volume of old track is lower than 50%, do a backspin with the jogs.

It sounds nice, and no-one ever complained about it. I would never do a backspin to introduce a new tempo / style or genre on my mix though...
For those cases a prefer a brake, an echo / loop out, cut, or even fade out / kick in...
 
Quite often I get closely watched.
It's also a body movement thing.
You look right.
You display energy.
I was doing a mix a couple of weeks ago, and unknown to me the manager was right behind me, her comment was "that was good".
I was very surprised.
Do not underestimate the intelligence, and knowledge of some people in your audience.
They're often key people whose comments carry weight.

I'm saying put as much energy and heart into your performance as possible.
That means you do the backspin.. not a controller button.
 
More than 1 fast backspin in 3 hours gets right on my mammaries, a break early and chop out a slow 4 beat backspin is ok 1 in 10 mixes
I've been to too many jungle nights with back spins, rewinds a pillock on the microphone, you're not building up, you're trashed and you don't know what you're doing.
 
I would never do a backspin to introduce a new tempo / style or genre on my mix though...

I tend to use a backspin when I'm short of time, and cannot think of a decent method of transition.
I'm often talking to somebody at the same time.
A simple cut is just to crude.


Playing songs that suit the mood is more important than the transition.
 
Ron how long have you actually been a DJ??

Alot of your post kinda make you come across as a newbie which isn't a bad thing but sometimes you seem waaaay under experienced for the gigs you talk about.

Theres no way I could work with someone always over my shoulder, well I could but I probably wouldn't last long because id tell them just to take over since they wanna tell me how to do my job.

After all, they hired you, right???
 
You're not like me..I go out on the dance floor, amongst the crowd.
I take the radio microphone, and if they're a little talented let them sing along with the song
Recently the youngest Mayor ever elected in the UK wanted to sing an important song for an audience.
I went to him with the radio microphone, and made the arrangement with him to sing.
People could hear what was going on.
He did it without music.

This kind of thing may not be possible in a normal night club environment.

It's all about communicating, and interacting with people.
Sometimes I don't do so well.

It's quite possible I'm a one off none production run with many rough edges.

Hm waaaay under experienced for the gigs I was thinking that as well Beatbreaker.
 
I may do a backspin twice in a 4hr set - but I do it at half the volume of the track so it almost sounds like it's part of the track. I'm with @locodog on this as more than once in an hour is to much as are any other effects which get used to often.
 
Ellaskins doing the spinbacks on the CDJ sounds great. I tried to duplicate that on a MC4000 controller with MP3 but the spinback sound is not the same. What settings do I change on my controller to replicate the sound of CDJ backspin?
 
bigron1 wrote :

Hm waaaay under experienced for the gigs I was thinking that as well Beatbreaker.


Ok sorry under experienced was the wrong term but now I have a better understanding of what it is you do and the type of environments you play in.

But you still never said how long you've actually been a DJ for?
 
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That might be a very important question.
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@Beatbreaker
Don't worry about it, that's exactly what I was thinking.
My hobby was chess, then I gave up smoking, and also most of my previous lifestyle.
Enter Mr. DJ.
The answer is late in life which equals 20 years.
I play anywhere people will have me, and I'm grateful.

Hm I telling lies..I mostly work where I want, except when needs must.
But I am grateful to those who use my services.
 
Nice!!

I quit smoking also about 13/14 years ago, cigarettes that is. Ill take a few pulls of the old green corn every now and again, lmmfao!!

But yeah backspins can be tricky. I rarely use them but sometimes they do sound awesome in a mix.
 
Just a random thought..what's with all the female bosses nowadays?
 
Good to see your talent for killing a thread with a totally irrelevant comment is still alive and well.
 
Ellaskins doing the spinbacks on the CDJ sounds great. I tried to duplicate that on a MC4000 controller with MP3 but the spinback sound is not the same. What settings do I change on my controller to replicate the sound of CDJ backspin?

We need the best to answer this question.
That's got to be the staff.
Most of us have not got the time to study backspin.
In vinyl mode I just spin the jog wheel backwards..and that's it!
 
First off, is he using the cdjs in midi mode or with timecodes??

Doing backspins with a controller is gonna depend on how loose the job wheels are.

I can tell you from using my own MC4000 the jogs are pretty tight and backspins are hard to pull off.

Now when using my turntables backspins are no problem.

I think its gonna boil down to your equipment.
 
I thought all my backspins were fine, they only lasted 10 seconds at the most, and were only a background sound for something starting. The world did not always agree. Such is life.
 
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