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Topic: way to make Gain go up more ?? and make master volume less sensative?

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some of my DVDs have very low sound, when i rip them and play with virtual dj sometimes the gain does not go up enough , only goes about half way. then i have to compensate with the master volume.


also another issue i have, the master volume is very sensative. slight touch and huge jump in volume ....

is there a way to make it less sensative ? thanks
 

Posted Fri 21 Feb 14 @ 10:08 am
What sofware are you using to rip the DVDs?

Is there no option in that software to normalise the audio?
 

Cyberlink power director 11

No it doesn't have a normalize function

It only has an option to individually raise the volume of the video segments

And it has no visual display to tell me if I'm hitting 0db or not

Also even when I raise the volume to the Max AND Max the gain in vdj some dvds falls slightly short of the optimum level

It's a lot of work doing all that and In the end you are making permanent edits to the music which I don't like to do
Better if it can be done in vdj
 

IMO it would be better to correct the problem at source (the ripping stage) rather than try to compensate later.

It seems odd that DVDs which have been professionally mastered and intended for DJs would be so badly recorded.

Maybe it's Power Director that's the problem. Try ripping them using software which does have control over audio level and offers normalising.

You shouldn't have to boost the signal in VDJ that much. The problem is clearly in the audio level of the ripped files - that's where you need to fix it. Boosting gain to overcome the issue will only create more issues (adding noise).
 

Try Handbrake. It has a universal volume boost when ripping DVDs and it's free.

Keith
 

this should half the amount moving the knob affects the software, making it less sensitive.

param_multiply 50% & master_volume

if you wan't the range to move up you can use param_add. This example will make your knob control from 20% to 70%

param_multiply 50% & param_add 20% & master_volume

any of the colored numbers can be changed.
 

groovindj wrote :
IMO it would be better to correct the problem at source (the ripping stage) rather than try to compensate later.

It seems odd that DVDs which have been professionally mastered and intended for DJs would be so badly recorded.

Maybe it's Power Director that's the problem. Try ripping them using software which does have control over audio level and offers normalising.

You shouldn't have to boost the signal in VDJ that much. The problem is clearly in the audio level of the ripped files - that's where you need to fix it. Boosting gain to overcome the issue will only create more issues (adding noise).


ahem..they are all professional and original discs, but who said they were "intended for DJs" ? i guess when many of them were made, they were made with a television set in mind rather than a PA system.

you see, i devote a section of my djing to playing footage of live concerts and music sections from movies and documentaries related to my genre. something which is largely unheard of for a DJ to do (at least where i come from)
but thats the great thing about virtual DJ is we can expand our horisons and try new things :)


power Director gives me good rips with also good editing possibilities as the songs often need to be cropped and faded in/out aswell. at 100 bucks it does a good job.

but i just wanna turn up the knobs more that all :-) why should there be a limit anyways?

 

map a button "power_gain". According to vdj script, "power_gain : set the gain, allowing up to +30dB in the positive.". Altought i wouldn't Recommend it. if you use max +30db on a song that is normalized the sound would be distorded because it would be beyond the soundcard capability, or you could blow up your speakers.

As for master level sensitivity, i use a xone dx that has a knob for master volume. It's an analog knob but i also can map it. if i turn it 50% and is mapped as master_volume, the sofware response would set the volume 100%. i gave up the mapping and i'm just using it the knob to control the analog sound.
 

Providing that you have not turned off the limiter in VirtualDJ then this will protect against distortion caused by applying too much gain, but you will get a 'pumping' sound instead as the limiter automatically kicks in to reduce the excessive levels.

A hardware master volume knob should not be MIDI mapped, otherwise the volume adjustment will be applied twice, first in the software mixer in VirtualDJ and then again by the hardware. The same applies to volume sliders, EQ knobs, gain, etc.
 



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