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Hi,

All is on the title. Why can't we play ripped mixed CDs gaplessly with VDJ ?
I have made a lot of tests and when i ripp a mixed cd in wma (because it's a gapless format) i can play it without gap in Windows Media Player, but in VDJ (7.02) even in back to back mix, we still have little gaps between songs.
Arghh...

If there is a solution that i don't know, please tell me.
If not, it would be a very important new wish for VDJ's next version.

And sorry for my very bad english.
 
Posted Fri 14 Jan 11 @ 7:59 pm
why would you wanna play a mix cd??... point being you can go around your problem simply record your mix cd with a program so its a gapless continuous mp3 file and then just play it on vdj no gaps.... to make life even easier you can also just make your mix on vdj with no gaps so it just record a large music file and then play it back on b vdj hope it helps
 
I was just thinking of this today, i would like to record a cd that can skip to the next song but when I play it there is no gap you can hear. What is up with that?

All the cds I make I make with no gap because it sounds smoother but I get complaints of not being able to skip.
 
you need to edit yout mixes via third party software, cool edit, sound forge etc. then you can split it up into tracks and burn the tracks to a disk for a "mix cd"
 
I use sometimes mixed cds (lounge) for cocktail or dinner time, so that's why i want to play it without gap.
When you play mixed cd directly within vdj, no problem, it plays the songs gaplessly so it keep the original mixes.

But when you ripp this mixed cd and want to play it in vdj, you have little gaps between songs (so you don't keep the original mix).

I know that mp3 is not a gapless format (when you rip in mp3 this format always puts little gaps that you can't remove).
But some audio format are gapless.
Wma is a gapless format.

Make a try:
- Take one cd already mixed (Café del Mare for example),
- simply ripp it with Windows media player (a freeware already bundled with all PCs),
- play it back within WMP = it plays it without gap

- now, play the same ripped songs in the same order in VDJ = you have gaps between songs

So, if we can play songs gaplessly with Windows Media Player, i think that we normally could make the same with our professional VDJ !

What do you think about it ?
 
i don't gaps i get a tiny click or pop where the files change. i even used waves pulled from my network on my living room laptop (not tweaked and loaded with programs)
 
Maybe am i to hard to please,

but for me, this little cliks are very annoying.
If i want to play correctly this mixed CDs, i actually prefer to use my cd players (so, the cd plays like it was mastered and keep the original perfect mixes).

But the interest of vdj is to use the pc (even with my cdj-400 in hid mode, but with less CDs to take with me).

And within VDJ, you always have this little cliks or glitches (that are in fact very little gaps).
You don't have this problem with a lot of audio freeware like Windos Media Player.
 
then why not run WMP using your headphone out then into your mixer?
 
You're kidding ?
 
And when i play simultaneously WMP and VDJ in Asio mode, i have a conflict (so i must quit one program).

So, using two softwares is not a good solution.

I'm interested in any solution to play ripped songs gaplessly in Vdj.

Actually, i ripp essentially in MP3 (because it's the more used format for audio software and hardware, and its easy for the tags).

The exception is for mixed CDs. I have tried to ripp them in WMA (because it is a gapless format) but if there is a better format to do that, tell me; I can use another codec (for the tags, WMA are not top with VDJ).

But, i repeat, i really would like to play songs gaplessly in VDJ (it's inconceivable to use another software in a party, just to do that and switching from one software to the other... no way).

Excuse me if i'm not very clear with my english
 
After some tests, it seems that even mp3 is gapless.

Because i can play the mp3 songs (from a ripped pre-mixed cd) without gaps with media monkey and wmp.
But not yet in VDJ.
 
Use audiograbber and rip the cd as one file.
 
Why are you playing mixed CD's??? And it can be done in automix with a little tweaking..................
 
Thank you for the reply,

but it's not practical because i also want to have access, directly to all these songs.

Sometimes, i take only one song from a premixed cd (so i need a direct access with the title, artist...)
and sometimes, i play a part or a full premixed cd (for diner or cocktail time).
 
Sorry, i was replying to "A man and his music" and i just see your message Beatbreaker.

Why i play mixed cd : because i mix during parties, but before, time could be very long (cocktail, diner,...) and you can buy very good mixed lounge compilations.

I know automix, but in this case (back to back mode) you have little gaps.

You say "it can be done in automix with a little tweaking"

If you know a tweaking that work well, tell me please.
 
Hi, yeah, as far as I've ever tried it, you're right, you can put automix into "gapless" mode or whatever it's called but it doesn't work as it should. Little tiny gaps, stutters, pops, I'm not sure what they were, but they shouldn't have been there.

I found this out the other year when I had to do a store promotion and got given a mixed CD to play ("grandmaster swing", everyone should own a copy!) and got this exact thing. Not sure if the developers know or not, but I guess it's not at the top of the priority list because you can work around it by just ripping the whole CD as one file.

Maybe you could mention it in the "new features" forum and see what they say.
 
Well ok its not even tweaking.................Just setup AutoMix like this,

Under "AutoMix Type" set it to "Fade (Remove Nothing)
and
"AutoMix Length" set it to "0s" or "1s"
and thats it. It works fine on my system..............the only thing I noticed was when set to "1s" depending on the type of music, it can sound off beat when it switches tracks but even when set to "0s" on my system theres no gap. Ill try to post a video and show you later.

Good Luck
Huey
 
Hi Andy,

I'm happy to see that i'm not the only one to hear this gaps.
I know that i can ripp the cd as one file, but when i ripp a pre-mixed cd, i also want to have access to all independant songs (by title, author...).

Hi Beatbreaker,

Retry, because at 1s, you are out of beat, and at 0s, you have a little gap.

Listen the same songs (from a premixed cd) in the order of this cd of course, in WMP or mediamonkey : really no gap; you keep all the original mixes as it was mastered and as you can hear it when playing it in a cd player.
 
Like I said theres no gap on my system, I will make a video later to prove it works on my system and like I said depending on what TYPE of music your playing it is off beat but if your playing like trance or something like that and during the transistion theres no drums it wouldnt matter.................. And like DJSYNYSTR you can just run a cable to a free channel on your mixer and use MediaPlayer. As for the conflict you spoke of when playing both whats that about?? I do it all the time (run the 2 programs). We throw Hip-Hop shows every month and some of the acts bring us there show disc.

Be back
Huey
 
if you have a conflict check your sound settings in windows when you have your asio device connected. it might be set as primary audio device by default.
 
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