dj-e-lectric
I see all the time VDj users having various problems with getting it to run and most seem to get it to run to varying degrees well enough to do a show, but we are talking some of us have pretty high end machines that just don't seem to run perfectly smoothly. I for one have a AMD Athlon XP 64 Dual Core 4200+, 2 gig ram, an NVIDIA 9600GT with 512megs DDR3 ram and I still have a short freezing of the video when loading a new file or sometimes when looping.
I read about lots of minor problems like that even from people running higher end stuff then mine.
I went to Wal-Mart and bought a cheap EMachines computer ($299) just to use for net surfing, office works, etc.....this machine is low end, only 1 gig ram AMD Sempron (yes I said Sempron...what do you want to $299) with a built in shared memeory 128mg Nvideo 6100 video card.
Just for sh1ts and giggles I installed VDJ 5.2 and couple dozen videos.................it absolutley BLOWS AWAY my high end machine. No freezing, even when I add text 2d running over a crossfade with both videos syncing in loops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And the mp4 take less than 2 seconds to load, scan, gain equalize and dispayl the entire waveform.....my "fast machine" takes about 4-5 seconds to do all that!!!!
Im' going to keep testing for a couple days and then it looks liek a trip back to Wal-Mart for a new gig computer CHEAP
I'm telling you COMPUTERS = VOODOO
I read about lots of minor problems like that even from people running higher end stuff then mine.
I went to Wal-Mart and bought a cheap EMachines computer ($299) just to use for net surfing, office works, etc.....this machine is low end, only 1 gig ram AMD Sempron (yes I said Sempron...what do you want to $299) with a built in shared memeory 128mg Nvideo 6100 video card.
Just for sh1ts and giggles I installed VDJ 5.2 and couple dozen videos.................it absolutley BLOWS AWAY my high end machine. No freezing, even when I add text 2d running over a crossfade with both videos syncing in loops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And the mp4 take less than 2 seconds to load, scan, gain equalize and dispayl the entire waveform.....my "fast machine" takes about 4-5 seconds to do all that!!!!
Im' going to keep testing for a couple days and then it looks liek a trip back to Wal-Mart for a new gig computer CHEAP
I'm telling you COMPUTERS = VOODOO
Posted Wed 20 Aug 08 @ 9:47 pm
DJ Marcel_1
I would suspect that the cheap machine you purchased was spec'd out by Emachines.
Since I've been getting more and more into Video Dj'ing I've found that building a computer is much like building an engine. Everything must match or there will be issues.
If the ram bus speed is 800MHZ - that's the ram that should be installed.
The CPU socket - if AMD2 then only AMD2 Chips get installed.
If the OS is diretx 9 then only directx9 vid cards get installed. (I found that out the hard way.)
Reading the specs on Motherboards is something that needs to be done.
of course the boards BIOS may need updating (I don't know how to do this) Of the 3 computers I've built for Video DJ'ing the one with the Integrated video GPU works the best.
The Nvidia card didn't have enough jam
The ATI card works but because it's a Directx 10 card VDJ has issues with it & XP.
Since I've been getting more and more into Video Dj'ing I've found that building a computer is much like building an engine. Everything must match or there will be issues.
If the ram bus speed is 800MHZ - that's the ram that should be installed.
The CPU socket - if AMD2 then only AMD2 Chips get installed.
If the OS is diretx 9 then only directx9 vid cards get installed. (I found that out the hard way.)
Reading the specs on Motherboards is something that needs to be done.
of course the boards BIOS may need updating (I don't know how to do this) Of the 3 computers I've built for Video DJ'ing the one with the Integrated video GPU works the best.
The Nvidia card didn't have enough jam
The ATI card works but because it's a Directx 10 card VDJ has issues with it & XP.
Posted Wed 20 Aug 08 @ 10:07 pm
djanthony
The best advise I can give is this:
Look if someone in your family or friends has bought recently a new laptop or pc.
Ask them to test virtualdj on it.
If it works great, then buy EXACTLY the same from the same store.
Don't believe that virtualdj works perfect when you buy the most expensive and latest laptop.
It depence on all the hardware that must work together.
Look if someone in your family or friends has bought recently a new laptop or pc.
Ask them to test virtualdj on it.
If it works great, then buy EXACTLY the same from the same store.
Don't believe that virtualdj works perfect when you buy the most expensive and latest laptop.
It depence on all the hardware that must work together.
Posted Thu 21 Aug 08 @ 12:35 am
Pat_DJ
lol.. well for 299$ you can`t go wrong with that..lol
Posted Thu 21 Aug 08 @ 7:00 am
Chris Davis
Yes I have the problem with freezing on my dedicated computer too.
I have now fixed the problem, which I believe is a VDJ bug with high end cards when running automix while using Windows Media Player Video Codec to play HD-mpg files
After changing every setup known to man and that I could find on this forum,, I gave up on the video card
I took out my Nvidia 8500gt and replaced it with an Nvidia LE6600. Better but not perfect. I had an occasional crash with this.
I took that out and replaced it with a ASUS extreme AX300se/t. Absolutely perfect. The whole system runs like a dream. So it seems that there are conflicts various with cards and VDJ, particulatly higher end cards.
So i guess unless VDJ fixes this, it is best to find an understanding computer specialist that afer building and loading VDJ, will try different cards until you find the one that best suits your setup.
I have now fixed the problem, which I believe is a VDJ bug with high end cards when running automix while using Windows Media Player Video Codec to play HD-mpg files
After changing every setup known to man and that I could find on this forum,, I gave up on the video card
I took out my Nvidia 8500gt and replaced it with an Nvidia LE6600. Better but not perfect. I had an occasional crash with this.
I took that out and replaced it with a ASUS extreme AX300se/t. Absolutely perfect. The whole system runs like a dream. So it seems that there are conflicts various with cards and VDJ, particulatly higher end cards.
So i guess unless VDJ fixes this, it is best to find an understanding computer specialist that afer building and loading VDJ, will try different cards until you find the one that best suits your setup.
Posted Sat 23 Aug 08 @ 2:18 am
dj-e-lectric
I had in succession a Nvidia 7300gs, a 7600gt, a 7900gt and an 8600gt all with the same problems and I was told each time go to the next "higher" card with more memory....now I'm up to a 9600gt oc with 512mgs ddr3 dedicated ram on the video card
This is not a slam on VDJ, (I absolutley love the program except the minor freezing and the search crashes) but everyone keeps saying you have to get all the combinations just right, you have to tweak this and tweak that, try different configs, get a faster processor, try different this, different that, defrag the hard drive, upgrade to vista.........but why don't other (non DJ) programs have these problems? They all work out of the box perfectly on any computer you put them on.
Every other program I have now or previously had on this computer worked FLAWLESSLY. I mean everything from the simplest program "list maker" to mid range computer hogs like CorelDraw, Photo Shop, and a high end resource grabbing $5000 proprietary Sign Production Program that runs a vinyl cutter, 2 large format printers and a cnc router I use for my daytime sign business. All of these programs run great on all three of my "high end" computers and my piece of crap P3 1.0ghz with only 2 gigs of ram and an FX5200 video card. I can't imagine every other software company around has the time and resources to test their software on every conceivable combination of hardware.
Maybe like AM/PM stores VDJ has too much "good stuff" and they should spend more time trying all the different combinations of specs and get what they now have working flawlessly before adding any more new features...............
Sorry if this sounds a bit like a sour rant, but I was very pissed tonight when around 12 to 12:30 it crashed on me when doing a search in the middle of a very very very hot old school medley mix I was doing and we had over 1000 people in the club tonight (usually we do about 700-800) and I had to "drop" into window media player ruining my mix, had no videos, got the usual cat calls when the program crashes and the music stops for that eternal second, and causing the REALLY hot Filipino chick dancing on the stage to quit dancing...........
This is not a slam on VDJ, (I absolutley love the program except the minor freezing and the search crashes) but everyone keeps saying you have to get all the combinations just right, you have to tweak this and tweak that, try different configs, get a faster processor, try different this, different that, defrag the hard drive, upgrade to vista.........but why don't other (non DJ) programs have these problems? They all work out of the box perfectly on any computer you put them on.
Every other program I have now or previously had on this computer worked FLAWLESSLY. I mean everything from the simplest program "list maker" to mid range computer hogs like CorelDraw, Photo Shop, and a high end resource grabbing $5000 proprietary Sign Production Program that runs a vinyl cutter, 2 large format printers and a cnc router I use for my daytime sign business. All of these programs run great on all three of my "high end" computers and my piece of crap P3 1.0ghz with only 2 gigs of ram and an FX5200 video card. I can't imagine every other software company around has the time and resources to test their software on every conceivable combination of hardware.
Maybe like AM/PM stores VDJ has too much "good stuff" and they should spend more time trying all the different combinations of specs and get what they now have working flawlessly before adding any more new features...............
Sorry if this sounds a bit like a sour rant, but I was very pissed tonight when around 12 to 12:30 it crashed on me when doing a search in the middle of a very very very hot old school medley mix I was doing and we had over 1000 people in the club tonight (usually we do about 700-800) and I had to "drop" into window media player ruining my mix, had no videos, got the usual cat calls when the program crashes and the music stops for that eternal second, and causing the REALLY hot Filipino chick dancing on the stage to quit dancing...........
Posted Sat 23 Aug 08 @ 5:28 am
internodal
As I found out the hard way, much of any computer's performance has a lot to do with the chipset on the motherboard.
For instance, my friend's laptop is a Toshiba Mobile Pentium 1,4 Ghz with an all-Intel chipset. It slightly outperforms my own laptop, also from Toshiba, which has a true, 3 GHz, Pentium IV Processor built around an ATI chipset. They both run the same software (Virtual DJ 5.2) with the same OS (Win XP SP2)
Coincidence? I don't think so...
That being said, my computer DOES get the job done, and I must say VDJ 5.x seems to manage the computer's ressources much better than previous versions. I have yet to witness a single crash from any version of this great software...
Internodal.
For instance, my friend's laptop is a Toshiba Mobile Pentium 1,4 Ghz with an all-Intel chipset. It slightly outperforms my own laptop, also from Toshiba, which has a true, 3 GHz, Pentium IV Processor built around an ATI chipset. They both run the same software (Virtual DJ 5.2) with the same OS (Win XP SP2)
Coincidence? I don't think so...
That being said, my computer DOES get the job done, and I must say VDJ 5.x seems to manage the computer's ressources much better than previous versions. I have yet to witness a single crash from any version of this great software...
Internodal.
Posted Sat 23 Aug 08 @ 2:40 pm
ghettotech
i've seen vdj work perfect on a 900Mhz athlon, 384MB (256+128) memory, 256MB nvidia agp video computer. with [avast] antivirus and [sygate] firewall always on.
i think WHAT MAKES U OR BREAKS THIS PROGRAM IS THE USER'S SOUNDCARD. and just coz u spend a lot of money on a sound card doesnt mean u wont get problems coz vdj just might not like its drivers. there's a certain not so popular $40 4.1 card that will play this program better than the ("asio!!!") maya44 card... aint that something.
the recommended configurations seem a little unrealistic (or maybe not). a 3Ghz computer is super powerful and can handle all sorts of things multitasking thrown at it. i think if u have a 2Ghz+ computer that is more than enough to run vdj. with certain sound cards u have to tweak your whole computer or the software right. some sound cards will exponent the bugs in the program [version]. some won't show the bugs. or u just have bad luck coz there'r some things which just can't be explained... and replacing sound cards mysteriously solves those problems.. wtf
a lot of ppl will say u need more memory, better video card, faster cpu etc... but i know a 900Mhz athlon 384MB, 256MB video multitasked computer has run the program perfectly. ppl just overlook their soundcard thinking they spent $200 on the it so it must be right. sometimes the latest sound card drivers wont even do anything for you.
maya44 is a crappy azz sound card. its drivers even the latest ones are ancient. and card asks too much of the pc power...
The minimum requirement to run Virtual DJ is:
PIII 850 MhZ computer
1024x768 SVGA video
DirectX compatible soundcard
512 MB RAM
20 MB free on the hard-drive
The recommended configuration is:
PIV 3 GhZ computer
1024x768 SVGA video
4.1 DirectX compatible soundcard (with front and rear separate outputs)
1024 MB RAM
200 MB free on the hard-drive
The recommended configuration to mix video is:
Dual Core 2 GhZ CPU
dual output ATI or nVidia video card with 1Gb of on-board memory (no integrated laptop videocard)
2048 MB RAM
red, pcdj.
Posted Sat 23 Aug 08 @ 3:35 pm
dj-e-lectric
ghettotech wrote :
i've seen vdj work perfect on a 900Mhz athlon, 384MB (256+128) memory, 256MB nvidia agp video computer. with [avast] antivirus and [sygate] firewall always on.
i think WHAT MAKES U OR BREAKS THIS PROGRAM IS THE USER'S SOUNDCARD. and just coz u spend a lot of money on a sound card doesnt mean u wont get problems coz vdj just might not like its drivers. there's a certain not so popular $40 4.1 card that will play this program better than the ("asio!!!") maya44 card... aint that something.
i've seen vdj work perfect on a 900Mhz athlon, 384MB (256+128) memory, 256MB nvidia agp video computer. with [avast] antivirus and [sygate] firewall always on.
i think WHAT MAKES U OR BREAKS THIS PROGRAM IS THE USER'S SOUNDCARD. and just coz u spend a lot of money on a sound card doesnt mean u wont get problems coz vdj just might not like its drivers. there's a certain not so popular $40 4.1 card that will play this program better than the ("asio!!!") maya44 card... aint that something.
I have never had any sound card problems and I have run everything from the onboard 2 cahnnel out Diamond Legacy to a rack mount productions style Echo Systems Mona 24 (currently runthe creative 24bit live which is a $25 5.1 surround card) and I have never had ANY soundcard related issues. For audio only I know this can run perfectly on a much lower than spec'd computer, but my problems are when I run VIDEO not audio files so I don't think the sound card matters.
When I originally bought VDJ they were on version 3.4 and the program in audio only mode has ALWAYS right off the download worked great with no crashes of any kind. When I started it was a P3 750mhz 512 ram and the internal soundcard running in the mono split mode...there were some issues with the sound engine back then with the occassional pop and click, but the program never froze, never crashed, never ruined a show.
Again I would not trade VDJ for any other VJ program out there (or Dj program for that matter), and I am not a programmer, and for all I know crossfading video may be THE absolutley hardest thing in the world to do on a computer but I would not think so with all the amazing things computer people get these machines to do. There has to be one or two things that determine why it will and it won't work because I have seen people posting on this board with computers with the EXACT same specs for CPU, Video Card, Memory, Hard Drive, etc. and 1 has problems and one doesn't.
It would be nice to know definitively what are THE most important two or three specs to run video properly so we have a base line to start from? IS it bus speed, memory type, video card memory, video card manufacture, cpu type.....there has to be a common thread that everyone having the same problem with freezing has.
If it is a codec thing then VDJ should let us know which codecs they wrote the program around and have tested and run flawlessly with the machine for mpg2, mp4, h264, divx, vob...and whatever other formats it supports.
They say they have found the search crash reason and it will be fixed in the next update so I am trying to be patient and wait for that release (although I think it would be nice that if they have the fix they should release it and then save the other stuff for a later release.....fix what's wrong before adding more stuff). Being patient is getting hard because that crash is the one thing that kills a set when the computer crashes and it is so random I never know when it is going to strike and with over 10,000 videos and 15,000 songs and most of you have larger libraries then me so you guys know how impossible it is to do a fresh show everynight without the search.
Te video freezing is just an annoyance that only the most attentive customers ever mention (actually 2 in the entire time I have been using VDJ) so that one I can live with for now.
Posted Sat 23 Aug 08 @ 5:03 pm
ghettotech
dj-e-lectric wrote :
until u hook up time coded vinyls and move the vinyl slow and hear the chop \'cheap like\' sounds..
Again I would not trade VDJ for any other VJ program out there (or Dj program for that matter)
even pcdj\'s time coded software doesnt do that. and they came in the time coded game.
red, pcdj.
Posted Tue 26 Aug 08 @ 10:15 am
dj-e-lectric
ghettotech wrote :
even pcdj's time coded software doesnt do that. and they came in the time coded game.
red, pcdj.
dj-e-lectric wrote :
until u hook up time coded vinyls and move the vinyl slow and hear the chop 'cheap like' sounds..
Again I would not trade VDJ for any other VJ program out there (or Dj program for that matter)
even pcdj's time coded software doesnt do that. and they came in the time coded game.
red, pcdj.
Can't comment on that as I don't do the time code thing...I gave up vynil the day Pioneer came up with the CDj 500's in 1994 and have never looked back.....too lazy to be carrying around those heavy turntables....and I like like progress in technology not living in the past. I like my car much better than my horse and buggy too!
Posted Tue 26 Aug 08 @ 1:14 pm
ghettotech
wouldnt u wonder why ppl till today used horses to travel long distance but there'r planes?
dont u wonder why they still design the car as the term "horse" power...
wouldnt u wonder why the best drivers still raced horses to this day?
cars made ppl lazy.. look at all these fat ppl everywhere... and look at all these lazy azz djs...
http://s78.photobucket.com/albums/j93/jblaze02/?action=view¤t=WhiteTec9TechnicsTshirtListing.jpg
dont u wonder why they still design the car as the term "horse" power...
wouldnt u wonder why the best drivers still raced horses to this day?
cars made ppl lazy.. look at all these fat ppl everywhere... and look at all these lazy azz djs...
http://s78.photobucket.com/albums/j93/jblaze02/?action=view¤t=WhiteTec9TechnicsTshirtListing.jpg
Posted Wed 27 Aug 08 @ 5:31 pm
Chris Davis
Talked to my computer guy, he says that my ASUS video card uses ATI. The swap from N-vidia to AVI worked for me. ;-)
Posted Wed 27 Aug 08 @ 7:27 pm
dj-e-lectric
ghettotech wrote :
wouldnt u wonder why ppl till today used horses to travel long distance but there'r planes?
dont u wonder why they still design the car as the term "horse" power...
wouldnt u wonder why the best drivers still raced horses to this day?
cars made ppl lazy.. look at all these fat ppl everywhere... and look at all these lazy azz djs...
http://s78.photobucket.com/albums/j93/jblaze02/?action=view¤t=WhiteTec9TechnicsTshirtListing.jpg
dont u wonder why they still design the car as the term "horse" power...
wouldnt u wonder why the best drivers still raced horses to this day?
cars made ppl lazy.. look at all these fat ppl everywhere... and look at all these lazy azz djs...
http://s78.photobucket.com/albums/j93/jblaze02/?action=view¤t=WhiteTec9TechnicsTshirtListing.jpg
I think McDonald's had a bigger share in making people fat than cars did....maybe what some see as "lazy" others see as "efficient". When I used turntables and vinyl was I "lazy" because I would only bring 10-12 crates of records which was about 200 songs to a show...now I can be "efficient" and bring 15,000 songs and 10,000 videos to a show (also turntables never allowed me to play videos until the computer programming and software were modified to do so)!...and if I want the round and round turntable mechanics I can by a much smaller, lighter, less expensive, more "efficient" controller
Posted Wed 27 Aug 08 @ 11:36 pm
djchris73
dj-e-lectric wrote :
When I used turntables and vinyl was I "lazy" because I would only bring 10-12 crates of records which was about 200 songs to a show
dj-e-lectric, first off I'm just messing with you bro, but check it out:
10 -12 crates, if the crates are East LA Dairy milk crates (Rockford, Foremost, etc) than they hold about 70 - 77 records. Let's round it off to 70 records. Just trust me ;)
If all the records are 12" singles, then it's one song per record, give or take.
That's about 700 - 840 records!
Old school, baby!
My records in the back of my old mobile setup, but underneath my old home setup:
Posted Thu 28 Aug 08 @ 12:27 am
HiTower
What are the scissors for? Is that how you cut a record, lol!
Posted Thu 28 Aug 08 @ 3:47 am
dj-e-lectric
Chris....Back atcha....don't worry I can take it as well as I can dish it and I really don't take anything anybody slings my way very seriously. Sometimes my posts might be interpretted as serious but that's because over the typed text you can't see my sarcastic grin.........and since I am fat myself I can make fun of fat people!
Trust me Chris I still have the best of my old vinyl, 1 ratty box + 14 crates (the 13\\\" x 13\\\" ones sears used to sell that stack and interlock and fit vinyl absolutley perfect) they hold about 65 pieces each, about half 12\\\" and half albums, accounting for duplicates of about 1/3 of them (yeah I used to trick it up a bit, but I out grew it when I realized the only people that care are other djs and dj wannabe\\\'s) that is around 500 distinct pieces and about 1500 songs counting multiple tracks on the albums......my turntables the technics 1500MKII with masking tape for added weight................oooooooooooooooh my aching back, that\\\'s what is old school
Oh sh!t...that jackson 5 christmas album is just your imagination!
Trust me Chris I still have the best of my old vinyl, 1 ratty box + 14 crates (the 13\\\" x 13\\\" ones sears used to sell that stack and interlock and fit vinyl absolutley perfect) they hold about 65 pieces each, about half 12\\\" and half albums, accounting for duplicates of about 1/3 of them (yeah I used to trick it up a bit, but I out grew it when I realized the only people that care are other djs and dj wannabe\\\'s) that is around 500 distinct pieces and about 1500 songs counting multiple tracks on the albums......my turntables the technics 1500MKII with masking tape for added weight................oooooooooooooooh my aching back, that\\\'s what is old school
Oh sh!t...that jackson 5 christmas album is just your imagination!
Posted Thu 28 Aug 08 @ 7:20 am
djchris73
^Nice collection!. I need to buy/build a better book/LP case for mine.
Posted Thu 28 Aug 08 @ 5:38 pm
dj-e-lectric
Like I said that collection stopped in 1994, and when I was in Vegas in 96/97 I sold off about 6 crates worth of duplicates and stuff I had already transferred to the computer/cd by then. Mostly everything in those crates has been transferred to the computer but I hung on to the vinyl just in case some young buck wanted to buy a really nice old school library, just never have the time to inventory it or list it for sale so I guess my neices and nephews will just have to fight over it when I die!
I have an SKB case that looks very similar to your's only a few spaces deeper on the slant top, but without the light. Did you do that yourself or is that an upgraded model, nice touch either way.
I have an SKB case that looks very similar to your's only a few spaces deeper on the slant top, but without the light. Did you do that yourself or is that an upgraded model, nice touch either way.
Posted Thu 28 Aug 08 @ 7:25 pm
DJ Andrey Seagull
djanthony nailed down this issue long time ago and gives the best advice about choosing computers.
I've spent countless hours trying to fight video freezing.
But after VDJ 5.1 came out all video freezing I had before disappeared. Even my old HP with 128MB NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) Go 7200 card can load and play videos with no freezing problems.
I've spent countless hours trying to fight video freezing.
But after VDJ 5.1 came out all video freezing I had before disappeared. Even my old HP with 128MB NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) Go 7200 card can load and play videos with no freezing problems.
Posted Fri 29 Aug 08 @ 3:52 am
