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- Topic: Burma (Myanmar) - |
chucknorrisyouwimps
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| Posted Sun 11 May 08 @ 15:26:48 |
I noticed our friends the French have been publicly advocating forced aid delivery ...... I think it's the morally correct thing to do , and even do-able in the face of what i think would be weak resisitance (if any ) from the junta ...... so I applaud our French friends for that , and hope that the U.S. administration is considering it ......
I think the U.N. should invoke the obligation to protect ....... |
chucknorrisyouwimps
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| Posted Sun 11 May 08 @ 18:49:06 |
there is a low lying , river delta type region that was hit very hard by a cyclone ..... the initial wind and rain was bad , but then flooding and tornadoes really delivered a knockout blow ......
this is a very poor country , badly run by a corrupt group (junta) of generals ..... the devastation affects the main agricultural region of the country , meaning that even if the immediate problems were quickly addressed ( which isn't happening) , there will soon be a need to replace a major harvest that was wiped out by the storm ......
the in - country resources for distributing aid are not even close to adequate and the junta is insisting on distributing aid itself , with little outsiide help .... even the military has very few helicopters and zero heavy lift capacity planes and experience ......
since the junta is refusing help and people are dying as a result ...... even the U.N. is concerned that this is a situation where national sovereignty doesn't seem very important , or is getting in the way of delivering aid to innocent people .....or that the U.N. itself seems impotent and worthless
kinda reminds me of Darfur ...... |
DJ Marcel_1
(VDJ Radio DJ)
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| Posted Sun 11 May 08 @ 19:53:01 |
The UN is Impotent
In the Last 15 years It should have acted, Darfur, Rwanda, Serbia, The Ivory Coast (diamond mines) the list goes on and on.
I was raised and spoonfed UN,UN,UN is school, and in the Army (CAN) but I see bleak outlook for the world in the very near future. |
chucknorrisyouwimps
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| Posted Sun 11 May 08 @ 20:38:47 |
thanks Marcel ...... I was spoonfed a lotta UN too ......
maybe the French and US will do the right thing ..... i'm hoping there maybe some kinda UN/Nato response ...... |
TearEmUp
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| Posted Sun 11 May 08 @ 20:43:29 |
I doubt the U.S. does anything without permission Chuck. After going in and helping deal with the last corrupt government they are still getting grief for it. |
chucknorrisyouwimps
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| Posted Sun 11 May 08 @ 20:47:05 |
Teary i know yer right , yer no dummy ..... i just try to be optimistic ....... |
chucknorrisyouwimps
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| Posted Sun 11 May 08 @ 21:40:22 |
in Serbia the US and Nato did intervene ..... so it can sometimes happen .... |
DJ Marcel_1
(VDJ Radio DJ)
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| Posted Sun 11 May 08 @ 23:52:36 |
Actually the UN acted in both Rwanda (Canadian Peacekeepers) Serbia (Canadian Peacekeepers)
In both times the Rules Of Enguagment handcuffed the Canadian Military, Even after Being Fired upon (both Countries)
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SpeedDemond29
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| Posted Mon 12 May 08 @ 00:01:34 |
Prayers go out to those people over there in Myanmar. I feel so bad for them. |
bagpuss
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| Posted Mon 12 May 08 @ 11:19:04 |
| chucknorrisyouwimps wrote : | | in Serbia the US and Nato did intervene ..... so it can sometimes happen .... |
They intervened after years of fighting, tens of thousands dead, just as many injured and the whole regions infrastructure heavily damaged or destroyed, so it was hardly a heroic intervention, it was "too little, too late" I'm afraid.
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bagpuss
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| Posted Mon 12 May 08 @ 11:20:48 |
| TearEmUp wrote : | | I doubt the U.S. does anything without permission Chuck. After going in and helping deal with the last corrupt government they are still getting grief for it. |
If you are talking about Iraq, then you don't know what you're talking about, smiple as that.
The word "last" in that statement is the key word, as if they are taking out corrupt governments as they emerge, there are dozens of corrupt governments all over the world, many of them are best friends with the U.S. |
chucknorrisyouwimps
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| Posted Mon 12 May 08 @ 13:44:17 |
thanks Marcel ..... the Canadians do participate in a lot of relief and peacekeeping operations . I don't understand myself , soldiers who can't shoot ??
'course , i don't understand decafeinated coffee , either ..... |
chucknorrisyouwimps
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| Posted Mon 12 May 08 @ 13:53:59 |
@ Bagpuss ......you're right so I won't argue with ya , although I could argue , just to stay in practice .......
what Nato did was slow coming , but it was 100% more than what any other was doing .......
if it were up to me , i would try to get the junta to allow us to make large air drops straight into the countryside where it's needed , and bypass the bottleneck at rangoon airport ......send in unarmed C130 s from Bangkok and drop to there military , since they insist on few foreigners and controlling the distribution ...... |
chucknorrisyouwimps
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| Posted Mon 12 May 08 @ 14:18:40 |
" then you don't know what you're talking about, smiple as that. "
that strikes me as an unnecessarily harsh choice of words ............?
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bagpuss
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| Posted Mon 12 May 08 @ 16:26:59 |
| chucknorrisyouwimps wrote : | " then you don't know what you're talking about, smiple as that. "
that strikes me as an unnecessarily harsh choice of words ............?
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I stand by my words, but I wouldn't worry as I'm friends with Terry in the slightly more real world of MSN, and he understands that this is a political debate, I'm blasting his opinion on this particular subject, not him in general, he's a good guy.
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