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Topic: Need Help - Old school vinyl DJ returning to the scene

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I need help deciding what equipment to buy.

I am an old school vinyl DJ returning to the scene and trying to move in to the 21st century. I downloaded VDJ5 demo and have had the itch ever since.

My turntables of choice are the Technics 1210 series, but I am not sure if they will timecode properly with VDJ5.

I have a Sony Vaio SZ series laptop with MS Vista, but it only has a headphones output so I beleive I will need a USB Sound cards in adition to turntables, a mixer, ETC that will all work with VDJ5.

Any input or suggestions would be much appreciated.

DJKenzoNYC
 
Posted Fri 12 Oct 07 @ 12:58 pm
Hi there, and welcome to the digital scene ;)

Your 1210s will work EXCELLENT with timecode. The better turntables, the better control on the timecode.
Just like real vinyls. And your decks are awesome...

What you need:

- The software (pro licence)
- Timecode vinyls
- a soundcard that runs on asio drivers, and has at least two line ins and two line outs (IN STEREO)

Or get a package that includes all of above, branded as Numark Virtual Vinyl
(same software as VDJ)

Hope that helps ;)
 
Posted Fri 12 Oct 07 @ 1:12 pm
spinnaJPRO InfinityMember since 2004
I would say for ur experience, it be worth to go to buy the NVV..(all in one)..:)
 
Posted Fri 12 Oct 07 @ 1:37 pm
Software and TC Vinyls being ordered this week.

As for the sound card, any recommended make and models?

The mixer, are there any specifics I need to know, stadard DJ Mixer vs. USB DJ Mixers

Also, do I ne any other hardware to timecode the vinyls

My understanding is that my TBs will hook to the mixer as normal. The mixer will hook to the sound card and the sound card to the laptob...

Is this correct? Again I am new to this 21st century DJ'ing...

TIA
DJKenzoNYC
 
Posted Fri 12 Oct 07 @ 1:37 pm

Well, you could, as said, get the all in one package : Software + Vinyls + great soundcard

That package is named Numark Virtual Vinyl and is easy to get in US.

Its the same software as VirtualDJ. and contains all you need, even cables.

If you want to select soundcard yourself there is a few solutions

Will post in a sec
 
Posted Fri 12 Oct 07 @ 1:43 pm

How to connect timecode setup is fairly easy :

- Put the timecode vinyls on your 1210s
- Connect the RCA cables from your 1210s to your soundcards line ins
- Then connect your soundcard outputs to your external mixer

Connect the software to your PC, and fire up VirtualDJ, and go to timecode settings to set up the signal.

This way you would control VirtualDJ from your turntables just as if you where playing real vinyl.

There are 3 modes in the settings in VDJ:

- Absolute mode : for hard-core vinyl control, where it acts exactly like real vinyls does... with the pro and cons that gives. No software aids.

- Smart mode : this will allow the software to aid your vinyl control (anti-skip, etc), plus have all software features work, such as loop, sync, cues and more

- Relative mode : A bit of both, form the two above modes.
 
Posted Fri 12 Oct 07 @ 1:47 pm


Soundcards

Made for VDJ/Numark:
- Numark Virtual Vinyl box (as build in amp/bypass etC)


Other timecode soundcards :

USB card that work good :
- Maya44 usb
- U46DJ
- Edirol UA-1000
and more

Firewire cards that work good:
- Prosonious Firebox
- Shaffire Le
- Edirol FA-66 , FA-101 and more
- Digidesign Digi 002 Rack
- Ego-Sys QuataFire 610
- Hercules 16/12 FW
- M-Audio FireWire 1814
- Terratec Phase 88 Rack FW
and more

PCI cards that works good :
- Delta 44 & 66, Delta 1010LT & 1010
- Soundblater X-FI platinum or elite
- Mayy 44 PCI
- Maya 1010
- Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinium Pro
- Sound Blaster Audigy 4 Pro
- Echo Layla 3G
- Ego-Sys ESP1010
- Ego-Sys WaveTerminal 192M
- Soundblaster E-MU 1820, 1820M
- Marian Marc 4 MIDI
- Terratec Phase 88 Rack
and lots more

PCMCIA cards that works good
- Soundblaster E-MU 1616M
- RME Audio Hammerfall DSP System


Generally speaking, almost any card that has two line ins in STEREO, and two line outs, will work, and if it has ASIO drivers its likely to work awesome (low latency drivers).

Those listed above are PRO cards, so some are damn expensive..
But get a card thats not the most expensive, but not the cheapest eather.

Soundblaster is a good solution on budget.

you need a card with asio and low latency ;)
 
Posted Fri 12 Oct 07 @ 1:50 pm
Easiest way for you living in US would be Numark way though, easy to get at local dj store, guitar center etc:





One package with all you need ...
- Software (pro license of Numark branded version of VirtualDJ)
- Vinyls
- Soundcard
- Cables

 
Posted Fri 12 Oct 07 @ 1:54 pm
djejPRO InfinityMember since 2004
Welcome. All the above is excellent information. Another thing to consider is the amount of ram in your laptop. The more the better. You can get by with 512 but I would recommend at least 1 gig. Standard Mixer will work fine as well. You could go for a USB that will allow you to control some of VDJ's functions if you don't want to touch a mouse at all. I just use a standard one and have a touch pad that I mounted on my mixer.
 
Posted Fri 12 Oct 07 @ 3:14 pm
Just want to say thanks for all the input.... Went out to Sam Ash after work and picked up the Numark VV5 set along with the Numark DM950USB mixer and have been playin all night....

Only queston now is how do I register my new equipment with VDJ?

I am sure I'll have more questions down the road.... But thanks again

DJKenzoNYC
 
Posted Sat 13 Oct 07 @ 7:51 am
spinnaJPRO InfinityMember since 2004
Go here! to register n welcome to VDJ Pro Side;)
 
Posted Sat 13 Oct 07 @ 7:54 am
Okay.... Alll set up.... Decs are timecoded, got both channels in the headphones, and on my speakers...

The only question I have now is..............

How do I get the sound back to te laptop to record my mix?????

DJKenzoNYC
 
Posted Sat 13 Oct 07 @ 2:06 pm
listen2PRO InfinityMember since 2005
use the mixer's record or studio output and plug that in to the laptops's soundcard (line in or mic), in the recording options select line in.
 
Posted Sat 13 Oct 07 @ 2:30 pm

Welcome as a full member Kenzo.. ;)

All up running.... ?

Please also remember to upgrade your version to the latest Rev4 release that improves lots of things, and fixes a few bugs too

http://www.virtualdj.com/update.html

enter your forum password to get the updates
 
Posted Sat 13 Oct 07 @ 2:44 pm
Numark Virtual Vinyl came with NVV v5rev4...

Do I still need to upgrade to VDJ v5rev4 or are the the same thing just with the Numark logo on it?

 
Posted Sat 13 Oct 07 @ 9:16 pm
spinnaJPRO InfinityMember since 2004
It the same thing...vdj n nvv n cue.
 
Posted Sat 13 Oct 07 @ 9:29 pm


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