Forum: Wishes and new features - Topic: My Wishlist for Virtual DJ 8 - Page: 1

Hello,

I'm using VDJ 7 for some time and found a few things missing.

1. Track Information
Helpful would be an info screen between the decks. There should be displayed the covers, the tag comment, year, ... and so on. Perhaps a simple text field for some notes would be helpful, too


2. Bug in sound config
At the moment when you use one channel for sampler and one channel for headphone - the sampler will be on the headphone, too. That bug should be fixed

3. Fast jump in Browser
If the browser is sorted by a row you should type a letter and the browser should jump to the first file starting with this letter in the sorted row.

4. AutoCue
There should be a playmode in the automix submenu so the player stops after playback, load the next track and wait for a play-command (CD-Player calls it AutoCue ...)

5. Export Playlist
There should be a way to export or print playlists with several kind of information from mp3 tag (for GEMA ...)

6. Volume for each song
In Automode VDJ calculates the gain automatically. It would be helpful if you can save a specific volume for a song too. So you can use the automatic mode but if it don't work or you don't want, you can set the volume/gain by yourself and it will be stored for next playback

7. Mp3 tag write through
There should be a check box in the options "mp3 tag write through". Is it enabled, all changes in file information will be changed in vdj archive AND mp3 tag information. So mp3 tag and vdj archive are always the same.

8. Disable PFL
When using an external mixer, there should be an option do disable the internal PFL-function in vdj (at the moment one channel is always activated for prelisten).

9. Sample-Sets
It would be great to save and load several sets of sampler configurations. So all 12 sampler change to a saved configuration...

Mhhh, I think, that's all. (The rest I will remember when I have clicked "save" ;o) )

Best regards

Sylvester

With the exception of the cover and notes this can already be done by skin designers.



Auto+Remember already exists :)



If you are using an external mixer, you aren't using VDJ PFL - so why does it need to be disabled?



You can already do this with VDJScript and a utility plugin wouldn't be difficult either.

I think the problem is that a lot of functionality is hidden away 'behind the scenes' in VDJScript or Windows registry options instead of being made available/accessible to the end user - ergo they don't know it exists.

VDJ ships 'out of the box' with only a small number of default skins. As a percentage, how much of VDJs functionality is visible to the end user via the GUI (the skin or the config)? 25%? 50%?

There are probably VDJScript commands that have only been used on one obscure skin that a handful of people ever downloaded!

You know what I mean?

Other programs (not necessarily DJ s/w) are much more complex than VDJ, and yet all their options are available to the end user via the GUI in some way. Menu, drop down box, config, right click and so on......

>>>>>>>You can already do this with VDJScript and a utility plugin wouldn't be difficult either


Can someone show us how to do this please?

map something using

sampler 1 load "filepath/to/sample.vdj" & sampler 1 volume 75% & sampler 1 loop on &

then you can combine them to load and set volume and loop for all 12 samples..

sampler 1 load "filepath/to/sample.vdj" & sampler 1 volume 75% & sampler 1 loop on & sampler 2 load "filepath/to/sample.mp3" & sampler 2 volume 50% & sampler 2 loop off & sampler 3 load "filepath/to/sample.wav" & sampler 3 volume 80% & sampler 3 loop off & etc...

What would REALLY be nice, is if there was a way to have VDJ to get together with a DMX software company like Freestyler, so that you can either put tags in the music track, or output beat information in someway that would allow the DMX software to cue up programs so that you can sync the lighting with the sound track playing. But then again, running lights and sound on the same PC might be risking processor overload problems.

You already can with both Freestyler and Venue magic.

a Vector skin, scalable for any monitor resolution...

higher depth of asio support... (vdj is limited to 48kHz only)

quantize...

Virtual DJ 8 wish list, love it. See you guys do care about us out here in the thick of it, trying not just to DJ but to entertain and step up our shows in a ever more competitive DJ market.

Well lets see, OK

1: I would like to be able to save loops in a track, not just cue point. I have tried to do this with VDJ script and no luck. So the ability to save loops of any count I want (1,2,4,8,ect.) would be great. If I were to really dream the saved loop points would be a different color then the white cue markers, like red.

2: A adjustable beat grid. What I mean by that is this, some songs change beet as they play. Examples are live music like classic rock, or songs like The Time by Black Eyed Peas. The auto beat calculator looks at the whole song and averages the beat grid. This dose help but if you could set points along the song and adjust the beat grid for only that part of the song it would be nice, even if the user would have to do this manually. Led Zeppelin Stairway To Heaven is another good example. This way auto sink will work well with any part of a song that changes BPM.

3: I understand that VDJ dose not make there own time code vinyl and yes I use Serato time code. It works very well but one thing that Serato dose that VDJ dose not, is allow me to lode the next song by flipping over the record. I have a choice of A or B side in time code set up, I would also like a choice of next track lode when record changes side.
It would work like this:
I have time code side A playing deck 1 on turntable 1.
I now mix to deck 2 that is using time code side A on turntable 2.
I flip the record over on turntable 1 to time code side B and VDJ recognizes this and lodes the next song in play list to deck 1
I now mix over to deck 1 that is using time code side B on turntable 1
I now flip the record over on turntable 2 to time code side B and VDJ recognizes this and lodes the next song in the play list to deck 2
I want to skip this song so I flip the record again on turntable 2 to the A side and once again VDJ recgnizes this and lodes the next song to deck 2.

A bit of a long explanation I know but this feature would be nice.

4: If I asked for one time code advanced feature then why not another. So building off of the feature I asked for above, I was thinking another feature would be nice. Deck time code selection by Serato vinyl side playing. This one would work like this: If time code side A was playing on turntable 1, deck 1 would be controlled. If time code B was playing on turntable 1 deck 3 would be controlled. The same would be true for turntable 2 except controlling decks 2 and 4 respectively.

5: The ability to have effects like echo out on pause or cue. So when this effect is on for lets say deck 1 if i press pause or cue the last part played will echo out.

6: The ability to have rolling stutter or loop. This would work much like the very short loops but would be active only while holding down the button and the song would hold play time so when the button was released the song would pick up at the time released. If this feature could also have a beat lock to it much like the loops have that would keep everything on time that would be great. There should be rolling stutters of short counts just like the short loops available and the lock feature should be able to turn off just like a loop.

7: A reverse button and a dump reverse button. I have seen these as effects but they would work better as permanent buttons.

I guess I should not get greedy and stop here but I must say truly Thanks for asking. Hope I can see at least one idea coming soon and thank again.

I know I already posted on this subject but some other things occurred to me, not just features I would like to see but also some ways for VDJ to keep on top of what is needed and connect with new DJ's and really gain some respect for the contributions VDJ has made to the DJ industry.

Now for a feature I have just seen that would be really cool for VDJ on the video side of things. Check the video out at this URL http://vimeo.com/36317710
It is an amazing way to map video. They used a program from Inklen called MixEmergency. Now there program only works with Apple and I am a PC DJ but if Virtual DJ could add the ability to do something like what they did with video effects reading time code and projecting the controls, well I will just say WOW!!!! And how much I am sold!!!!

Also I think you need to pay DJ Ean Golden at DJ TechTools a very serious visit. His page and store have been around for quite awhile. If you browse his blog and forum you will see that many DJ's of varying experience level turn to him and other people like him to help build there DJ skills. He is connected in with the emerging DJ industry so much so that Vestax consulted him when redesigning the VCI-100 controller and even produced a Ean Golden limited edition version of the mixer. You see he is influencing DJ's every day on what to buy, what controller to use, what program to get. Because of VDJ's ability to mix video there are a few mentions of Virtual DJ on his forms and he has taken notice of this but he still dose not see VDJ as a serious DJ tool.

You really need to change his mind about this, his words and the words of others like him will sell your product or direct people to other products. Your new VDJ 8 preview has some great features he would go nuts over. The guys at his shop are always going back and forth between Traktor and Serato. Showing us advantages about how the one program works then a different advantage in the other program. It has split his shop into the Traktor people and the Serato people but if you think about it Virtual DJ is a hi-breed of both programs. It could unite his shop into VDJ people if someone took the time to show them. A quick example of there ignorance of VDJ's capabilities is a video Ean Golden made about DJ-ing with Guitar Hero. In the video he explained that in order to get the game controller to talk to his program you would need a box to convert a HID device to MIDI. Well correct me if I am wrong but VDJ has been able to connect to HID devices directly for a long time now. All I'm saying is take some time to actually go to people like Ean Golden and show them, turn them into fans, get them to help new DJ's see your product in it's true light.

you can't do this yet however I made a workaround that saves any normal loop size up to 32beats. It needs to be mapped to a controller with led feedback http://fr.virtualdj.com/forums/154891/Wishes_and_new_features/SAVE_LOOOPS_.html



you are asking too much imo, you can warp in ableton or torq offers an elastic grid.



cool idea but it's unnecassary and only for show imo




+1, but im not sure it's practicle as you need to deactivate the decks timecode before removing the stylus.



echodoppler, echo, gate echo & ramp delay all do this, you need to disable the effect reset on load in the config menu.



looproll, beatmasher_single, roll, reverse roll all do this.



you can map any button on your controller as they are part of vdj script. reverse is "reverse" and dump is "dump" lol



Jesus doesn't like vdj, he likes traktor... due to the reputation of vdj I can't see him ever endorse vdj beyond being a toy. But meh, I don't believe in jesus and his effect whoring deciples anyway, and soon you will realize that little that jesus stands for actually gets used in a live environment... It's all about the music not the effects... Also if you look on the djtt forum most of the guys are over 35...

It's not what the little fella wants, It's what the Big Fella says.....

On the Eigth day God said...... Let everyone be happy.

Hi Vdj,

I have only recently begun to harness the fantastic broadcast tools and config options built in to VDJ. I feel its missing a trick. I would love to see a radio style "Auto Assist" in the playlist options - something that by default uses the cue points already set up in each playlist track. Either auto load in to player 1 & 2 in turn or with normal one deck automix style, but with transition options?


VDJ Rules!!! :-))

Why do you think that it's asking too much?

The ability to warp songs is the primary reason why many DJs use Ableton Live, despite it not really being DJ software.

They put up with all the limitations because the warping is such a great feature.

Now, if warping were available in VDJ then Atomix would have a killer feature that no one could ignore.

They'd be first on the block with DJ software which could warp.

All those guys putting up with Ableton Live would jump ship in a heartbeat to use actual DJ software with that feature.

People who previously considered VDJ a toy would take it seriously. Nobody calls Ableton Live a toy!

Was away for a week but lets see.

synthet1c I will use your link to check out your work around for the loops, thanks.

As groovindj said adjustable beat grid, I would still like to see. I don't think you can ask for too much if you are talking "wish list". Right?

On the vinyl flip idea, I really don't think it is for show as much as it would be for speed. Flipping the record is a natural and easy move for a DJ. The other thing is if you are a turntablist and you use absolute mode you could stack control records and tape cue the the record to your sound, changing the song on the fly.

On "control different decks with record flip" I also agree about the issue of deactivating the control. Maybe it could be a auto feature but still how? I have now discovered a VDJ skin called Scratch Works 4x that has a time code toggle that works better then my idea.

synthet1c thank again for the help with echo out features, I will check them out.

And synthet1c still another thank you for the help with loop roll, reverse, dump, ect.

No one commented on the video mapping? It is really cool and I would love to see. If you have not checked out the video link above it is worth the time. Hay Tayla the Firetext representative, this could be up your alley and a really cool plug in that the minds from Firetext could develop.

As for VDJ getting in with DJ TechTools I think my point was missed. Ean Golden is my example but my point is VDJ needs to get more involved with getting people that influence and teach to love VDJ. New DJ's are the ones missing out, VDJ is far from "a toy". I think it really dose combine the best of many software worlds, but take it to the preachers, teacher, users, movers, and the rest and SHOW THEM. VDJ needs to stand up for it's self and say "TAKE US SERIOUSLY because we are here to stay and improve!" What about Dubspot? It's a DJ school in New York and they currently have no video DJ lessons to my knowledge. Get in the door there, it's worth the time. Sight is http://www.dubspot.com/

As for the DJ TechTools form well I am a member and I will start posting about Virtual DJ's features. You never know Ean Golden posted a bit ago about VDJ and how he thinks it has allot of potential. Is he changing his view a little? Maybe, guess I will take that one on but feel free to join me, it's lonely out there by myself.

I think an elastic grid is asking too much because the software will have to deal with an ever changing pitch, will probably cause sound artifacts on slower computers, Not to mention the time it takes to set the beats for each track. I believe if you are going to do it you should do it in ableton where the software can properly process the music in an appropriate buffer unlike dj software that has a very small buffer. Final point is ableton is built around warping and syncing clips and their development team and budget would far exceed atomix, I would prefer necessary things like the eq, loops synced to the grid and hotloops, the interface and advanced script verbs to be focused on.

I should mention that ramp delay is my favorite as it can be used like a post fader echo, just don't change the size. and "echo" should be "echo_efx500"

record flip i still think takes more time than hitting a button to load the new track... hence saying it's only for show so you can spin the record to impress the girls, but it's not that hard nor impressive and with the speed of mixes these days it wastes valuable seconds for beatmatching. With button loading I can load on the third beat and drop on the first, beatmatch for 16 beats and hit a cue to drop with the playing track...

dubspot will use serato video.

I am always on djtt giving examples of advanced use of vdj and talking shit, It is a busy forum full of interesting topics but I think that Ean Golden is making djing a consumer thing trying to convert gamers with a just press this button type of logic, no longer encouraging independance from their brand. Oh and they have these smiley's which is awesome.

Strangly atomix's advertising department is non existant, There are no video's of it's use by atomix on youtube, and they seem to rely on pairing with controllers, word of mouth and this forum for advertising. Seems crazy to me... but vdj home is the most downloaded dj software from cnet and pro used to be the most cracked dj software on the internet, not sure if that is still the case as traktor and torq are just as easy to get. serato itch is the only exception because it only works with certain controllers.

There are some DJ programs with elastic grid so I would think it could be done. VDJ is currently scalable to different computers (i.e. you can disable the video drivers or adjust performance to the computer) so if they add it I would think they would allow you to also disable it.

Record flip or in the case of turntablists record stacking of a set is a show and that is what we do. Yes there are many types of DJ's out there but in the long run we are all trying to put on a show, a great show that gets people excited and going. So I do get that the mix and it's execution are your show and I would never try to get you to change your show. My show may include some Turntablism or lights programmed in perfect sync to the music or flying monkeys (hold on that would be cool) but that is my show. VDJ is near perfect as a DJ program for what I like to do and I think there is room and time for everyone's idea here.

I used Serato video and it was the most unstable video program I ever used. Maybe they have improved it but I won't be using it. There bad video driver is exactly why I switched to PCDJ VJ at first and then after PCDJ screwed all there customers by stopping support for VJ ($300 in the trash) I now use VDJ ($300 well spent).

VDJ 8 from what I have seen should get notice at DJTT. I do love Traktor and if it had video when I was looking to add it to my show I would probably be a Traktor DJ but they don't and I don't think they will soon.

I do agree that DJTT has changed a little to a internally focused company. They are proud of there products and should be but the focus should be mostly on the art of controllerism and moving it forward.

If you are making money in the DJ industry and are using cracked software you are a thief. Now I get that this is just preaching and illegal software will always be a issue. It would be nice to see VDJ 8 improve on it's security and keep the $50 DJ's from getting it illegally. It's a all around bad thing for our industry. However I don't no how, I think unless VDJ goes the way of Serato and makes software that only works with there hardware product, VDJ will always be susceptible to theft. I combat software theft by not allowing any DJ's to work with illegal software in the places I control the bookings. Now it's not much but there are three DJ in my area that now have payed for there VDJ program in order to get a booking at a place I control.

P.S. The DJ's that payed for the software finally are now on my side after seeing all they were missing out on like skins and effects.

Which DJ programs have an elastic grid?

I'm not aware of any that adjust the timing of tracks to fit a set tempo, in the way that Live does.

1) Automatic Plugin Delay COmpensation to resolve problem of unsyncronised tracks caused by the effects etc being used.

2) Sidechain signal for each channel in use, to be used by certain types of plugin which make use of a side chain.

3) Ability to make Pre-fade listen be pre-ALL-faders. At the moment, when using a skin which has eq crossfaders high, mid, and low, if the crossfaders are set to the left, you cannot pre-fade listen to the right track at all until the eq crossfaders are moved over to the right. Not sure which is the correct way to have this enabled by default, but as soon as I started using VDJ this issue became a problem for me.

I would like more precision cueing, just to explain, I would like the same cueing feel when I used serato itch with my ns7, when I used virtual dj it does not seems that is in time, is either to fast or to slow to start, I dnt know if this just happen with the ns7 or with all the controllers but there is something in there that need to be fix, I'm using a mac with bootcamp, exceding all the specifications, and also I wish that with virtual dj8, I would not have to use bootcamp, just my mac without the warbly sound..... with my virtual dj 7 videos seems to look better than with serato,.. I also like the diferent video formats that virtual dj offers, also just a bit better sensitivity for scratching, for what I seen about virtual dj 8 its looks great, I like the new mixmeister features, thats great, I'm not in a hurry for the release but please make it work flawlessly, thank you!